As TFA rightly points out, unless something drastically changes in the next ~6mo, Intel is going to launch into the most favorable market situation we've seen in our lifetimes. Previously, the expectation is that they needed to introduce something that was competitive with the top end cards from nVidia and AMD. With basically all GPU's out of stock currently they really just need to introduce something competitive with the almost anything on the market to be able to sell as much as they can ship.
Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
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Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#12Always seems to be two years away, like the Aurora supercomputer at Argonne.
Early 2022 is only like 4-8 months away?
Aurora was supposed to be delivered in 2018: https://www.nextplatform.com/2018/07/27/end-of-the-line-for-...
After it was delayed, Intel said that 2020 was when they'd be ready. Spoiler alert: they aren't: https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/doe-confirms-auro...
We're now looking at 2022 as the new "deadline", but we know that Intel has enough clout to force a new deadline as necessary. They've already slipped two deadlines, what's the risk in slipping a 3rd time?
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I don't like to "kick Intel while they're down", but Aurora has been a disaster for years. That being said, I'm liking a lot of their OneAPI tech on paper at least. Maybe I'll give it a shot one day. (AVX512 + GPU supported with one compiler, in a C++-like language that could serve as a competitor to CUDA? That'd be nice... but Intel NEEDS to deliver these GPUs in time. Every delay is eating away at their reputation)
Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#13Always seems to be two years away, like the Aurora supercomputer at Argonne.
I know March 2020 has been a very very long month but I'm pretty sure we're gonna skip a bunch of calendar dates when we get out of it.
Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#14I really hope this breaks Nvidia's stranglehold on deep learning. Some competition would hopefully bring down prices at the compute high-end. AMD don't seem to even be trying on the software-side at the moment. ROCm is a mess.
I wholeheartedly agree. PyTorch did recently release AMD support which I was happy to see (though I have not tested it), I’m hoping there is more to come.
https://pytorch.org/blog/pytorch-for-amd-rocm-platform-now-a...
Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#15If Intel provides as much Linux driver support as they do for their current integrated graphics lineup, we might have a new favourite among Linux users.
Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#16More promises tied --not to something in hand-- but to some amazing future thing. Intel has not learned one bit.
"The earliest Arc products will be released in "the first quarter of 2022"
That implies they do have running prototypes in-hand.
Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#17As TFA rightly points out, unless something drastically changes in the next ~6mo, Intel is going to launch into the most favorable market situation we've seen in our lifetimes. Previously, the expectation is that they needed to introduce something that was competitive with the top end cards from nVidia and AMD. With basically all GPU's out of stock currently they really just need to introduce something competitive wi…
Intel has the manufacturing capability to really beat up Nvidia. Even if the cards don’t perform like top-tier cards they could still win bigly here.
Very exciting!
Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#18I'm down if it comes with open drivers or specs.
If they support virtualization like they do on their iGPUs that would be great and possibly drive adoption by power users. But I suspect they'll use that feature for market segmentation just like AMD and Nvidia do.
Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#19I'm down if it comes with open drivers or specs.
Phoronix has been covering the Linux driver development for the cards as they happen: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=search&q=DG2
Re: Intel’s Arc GPUs will compete with GeForce and Radeon in early 2022
#20I really hope this breaks Nvidia's stranglehold on deep learning. Some competition would hopefully bring down prices at the compute high-end. AMD don't seem to even be trying on the software-side at the moment. ROCm is a mess.
I think this situation can only be fixed by moving up into languages that compile to vendor specific GPU languages. Just treat CUDA, openCL, vulkan compute, metal compute(??) etc. as the assembly of graphics cards.