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WhatsApp lead and other tech experts fire back at Apple’s Child Safety plan

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Re: WhatsApp lead and other tech experts fire back at Apple’s Child Safety plan

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It’s too late either way. The fact that it even got this far through implementation says the vendor is not on my side. Not only that once capability is revealed it can be required by governments and manipulated under warrant. Particularly in some regimes, mine included, the vendor can be compelled to do something and not say anything. My comment doesn’t even cover how monumentally flawed the entire thing is either. S…

Great to hear someone else is doing the same. For me the biggest issue is I have young kids and the convienence of quick photo taking is good on a smartphone. Might look into pinephone or something similar.

Fortunately mine are teenagers now so that bit of my life is over mostly. I only get photos of them lurking, hiding and giving me the middle finger and that’s about it :)

Re: WhatsApp lead and other tech experts fire back at Apple’s Child Safety plan

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s too late either way. The fact that it even got this far through implementation says the vendor is not on my side. Not only that once capability is revealed it can be required by governments and manipulated under warrant. Particularly in some regimes, mine included, the vendor can be compelled to do something and not say anything. My comment doesn’t even cover how monumentally flawed the entire thing is either. S…

> It’s too late either way. The fact that it even got this far through implementation says the vendor is not on my side. Can Apple force people to install this even on devices they already sold?

No but they just refuse to service your updates without this enabled.

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Isn't WhatsApp part of Facebook? Why is it being separated as WhatsApp?

Because Will Cathcart is the lead of WhatsApp, not Facebook. As is mentioned clearly in the title. It's not like they are hiding the association as his quote is immediately followed up by: > WhatsApp’s owner, Facebook, has reasons to pounce on Apple for privacy concerns.

To be fair. Apple is opening up the door to allow Facebook to pounce.

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> It’s too late either way. The fact that it even got this far through implementation says the vendor is not on my side. Can Apple force people to install this even on devices they already sold?

No but they just refuse to service your updates without this enabled.

Even security updates?

Re: WhatsApp lead and other tech experts fire back at Apple’s Child Safety plan

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I really hope there is enough momentum to stop this. It's definitely the last straw for me in terms of apple products. I haven't bought a new iphone for 4 years, I'm slowly trying to switch to a lightphone (non smartphone). My mac needs a change but I will probably switch to linux. It's absolutely ridiculous what apple has become. The exact opposite of what they used to represent, when I loved them. God rest Steve Jo…

This reads like a pre-prepared rant.

> It's definitely the last straw for me in terms of apple products.

Uhh and where else will you go where the grass is so much rosier privacy-wise?

Re: WhatsApp lead and other tech experts fire back at Apple’s Child Safety plan

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What is striking is that a lot of misinformation is spreading around. How it works, what is behind it, what the alternatives could be, and especially what problem it tries to solve.

This tweet here gives interesting options to learn more about it https://twitter.com/yoyoel/status/1424154582372872192?s=20

I have no imagination of the suffering of the kids behind it and it's definitely good that we fight it. But why not for older kids?

Apparently this is already happening on all major platforms in the moment. Apples implementation is the most privacy friendly one, or isn't it?

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