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It’s truly horrific that as an interested layman I am completely UNABLE to read most scientific papers. And to think about what they did to Aaron Schwartz…
> It’s truly horrific that as an interested layman I am completely UNABLE to read most scientific papers. You can usually find a pre-print by Googling the title. Or ask the author for a copy. (You shouldn't have to do this, but you can until all papers are open access anyway.)
Major U.K. science funder to require grantees to make papers immediately free
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#12yeah, that kind of free huh. Sick.
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> It’s truly horrific that as an interested layman I am completely UNABLE to read most scientific papers. You can usually find a pre-print by Googling the title. Or ask the author for a copy. (You shouldn't have to do this, but you can until all papers are open access anyway.)
Why is it legal for the author to send you a copy (asking as an author)
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#15Slowly and almost imperceptibly if you look at it day-to-day, public research repositories like arxiv and biorxiv, along with public code repositories like github and gitlab, are becoming or maybe already are the world's most important academic "journals." All research and code posted on them gets a quick once-over; good work gets the attention it deserves; bad work is quickly ignored. Reviews take place over the Int…
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> It’s truly horrific that as an interested layman I am completely UNABLE to read most scientific papers. You can usually find a pre-print by Googling the title. Or ask the author for a copy. (You shouldn't have to do this, but you can until all papers are open access anyway.)
Why is it legal for the author to send you a copy (asking as an author)
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#17Slowly and almost imperceptibly if you look at it day-to-day, public research repositories like arxiv and biorxiv, along with public code repositories like github and gitlab, are becoming or maybe already are the world's most important academic "journals." All research and code posted on them gets a quick once-over; good work gets the attention it deserves; bad work is quickly ignored. Reviews take place over the Int…
If you want to have to read 5,000 poorly written error riddled works to find a single gem I guess it's okay. Unfortunately, I'm not an immortal
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#18A good development - depositing papers in OA journals is extremely expensive and internationally, most funding bodies requiring OA don't give you money to publish OA. For example, Nature Communications charges around $5,000 for a single paper; I can send a student to an overseas conference for that kind of money! Public repositories like arxiv or biorxiv are free.
I could not agree more: this is a good thing. Studies funded by public money should be freely available by default. This is a great decision and I hope major funding agencies in the USA follow this example. As a practicing scientist, I ostensibly have access to a rich variety of journals from my employer. However, I've found journal access to be difficult during WFH/COVID. My default is to look for an open access pap…
In similar vein, software used by public institutions should be required to be made open-source. Open source is already the VIIth marvel of humanity, and needs consolidation.
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It’s truly horrific that as an interested layman I am completely UNABLE to read most scientific papers. And to think about what they did to Aaron Schwartz…
Well you are, if you're willing to pay. Or just use Sci-Hub as it seems even many professional researchers do.
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#20Slowly and almost imperceptibly if you look at it day-to-day, public research repositories like arxiv and biorxiv, along with public code repositories like github and gitlab, are becoming or maybe already are the world's most important academic "journals." All research and code posted on them gets a quick once-over; good work gets the attention it deserves; bad work is quickly ignored. Reviews take place over the Int…
If you want to have to read 5,000 poorly written error riddled works to find a single gem I guess it's okay. Unfortunately, I'm not an immortal
Finally. ( = Let us devise it for the publications, then let us export it to the many, uttermostly crucial, contexts that can use it).