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Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by doublec »

teruakohatu wrote: post #6

This is partly administered by my country, New Zealand, although is not part of the Realm of New Zealand (New Zealand plus territories it controls), rather it is a British Overseas Territory. The people living there are mostly descendants of the Bounty mutineers and their captives. There has been a long sad history of sexual abuse, with one third of the island's male population being convicted and imprisoned in the e…

I dispute your words that the island is a "rather sad place". It is a place full of people living in a remote island but the place is a warm and vibrant community full of history. Not just the history of the mutiny, but the history of the Tahitian ancestry pre-mutiny. They have a local government where local laws are enacted but as you say, they are British ruled due to a an encounter in the 1838 of a British ship where the Pitcairners asked for some laws to be drafted. Many administration aspects are managed from New Zealand for convenience but it is not administered by New Zealand. The High Commissioner in Auckland is a represents the UK.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by cupcake-unicorn »

doublec wrote: post #9

I am of Pitcairn descent. My grandmother was born there. I'm a descendant of the mutineers Fletcher Christian, John Mills and Edward Young, and the Tahitian women who went there, Mauatua, Vahineatua, To'ofaiti and Teraura. I've been to the island and I'm active in the Pitcairn community here in New Zealand. The island is a vibrant community of people working. When I was there they were very warm and welcoming. The is…

Can you answer more questions about the state of the infrastructure there like electricity and internet? On Wikipedia it says there's only one person in charge of the electricity and it goes off every night.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by doublec »

cupcake-unicorn wrote: post #12
doublec wrote: post #9

I am of Pitcairn descent. My grandmother was born there. I'm a descendant of the mutineers Fletcher Christian, John Mills and Edward Young, and the Tahitian women who went there, Mauatua, Vahineatua, To'ofaiti and Teraura. I've been to the island and I'm active in the Pitcairn community here in New Zealand. The island is a vibrant community of people working. When I was there they were very warm and welcoming. The is…

Can you answer more questions about the state of the infrastructure there like electricity and internet? On Wikipedia it says there's only one person in charge of the electricity and it goes off every night.

When I was there the power operated until 10pm at night. From that time homes would either run from personal generators, or batteries - to power refrigerators, lights, routers, etc. These days the homes have or are getting solar panels.

Internet was terrible at the time. I wrote about it here: https://bluishcoder.co.nz/2012/05/29/pitcairn-island-and-slo...

It has improved but is still relatively slow and expensive.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by jnord »

doublec wrote: post #9

I am of Pitcairn descent. My grandmother was born there. I'm a descendant of the mutineers Fletcher Christian, John Mills and Edward Young, and the Tahitian women who went there, Mauatua, Vahineatua, To'ofaiti and Teraura. I've been to the island and I'm active in the Pitcairn community here in New Zealand. The island is a vibrant community of people working. When I was there they were very warm and welcoming. The is…

It is truly amazing that this extremely remote island can actually be explored via Google street view: https://goo.gl/maps/Jq2nguTrabm84sKB8

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by teruakohatu »

doublec wrote: post #11
teruakohatu wrote: post #6

This is partly administered by my country, New Zealand, although is not part of the Realm of New Zealand (New Zealand plus territories it controls), rather it is a British Overseas Territory. The people living there are mostly descendants of the Bounty mutineers and their captives. There has been a long sad history of sexual abuse, with one third of the island's male population being convicted and imprisoned in the e…

I dispute your words that the island is a "rather sad place". It is a place full of people living in a remote island but the place is a warm and vibrant community full of history. Not just the history of the mutiny, but the history of the Tahitian ancestry pre-mutiny. They have a local government where local laws are enacted but as you say, they are British ruled due to a an encounter in the 1838 of a British ship wh…

> I dispute your words that the island is a "rather sad place"

I certainly meant no disrespect to you or your family. Maybe it has improved since the court cases? If the people, especially the woman, there are happy I am very glad to hear it. I edited my comment out of respect.

> Many administration aspects are managed from New Zealand

The police are New Zealand police.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by doublec »

cupcake-unicorn wrote: post #10

This is crazy this showed up on HN. Years ago I had a dream about Pitcairn island. When I woke up I was like, does that even exist? Not sure how my psyche channeled this one up. Then I started reading about it and things are pretty sad there. You can see on the Wikipedia site some really shocking info like there's only one older administrator of the electricity system there and not to mention all the awful abuse scan…

I feel like a broken record, but just because things are different doesn't make it "sad". Sure, it doesn't have the mod cons of modern city life, but it has a lifestyle of growing your own food, fishing, building what you need and living in the country.

People have applied for the ability to live there but the reality is that there are many people dreaming of an idyllic lifestyle but when faced with the realisation of how hard they have to work to survive on a remote island and having to integrate into an established community they don't progress further.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by legostormtroopr »

teruakohatu wrote: post #6

This is partly administered by my country, New Zealand, although is not part of the Realm of New Zealand (New Zealand plus territories it controls), rather it is a British Overseas Territory. The people living there are mostly descendants of the Bounty mutineers and their captives. There has been a long sad history of sexual abuse, with one third of the island's male population being convicted and imprisoned in the e…

> There has been a long sad history of sexual abuse, with one third of the island's male population being convicted and imprisoned in the early 2000s.

This sounds really bad, until you realise one-third of the male population is 7 people.

You are correct, but its not an accurate use of statistics.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by doublec »

jnord wrote: post #14
doublec wrote: post #9

I am of Pitcairn descent. My grandmother was born there. I'm a descendant of the mutineers Fletcher Christian, John Mills and Edward Young, and the Tahitian women who went there, Mauatua, Vahineatua, To'ofaiti and Teraura. I've been to the island and I'm active in the Pitcairn community here in New Zealand. The island is a vibrant community of people working. When I was there they were very warm and welcoming. The is…

It is truly amazing that this extremely remote island can actually be explored via Google street view: https://goo.gl/maps/Jq2nguTrabm84sKB8

Yes! I remember seeing photos of the person doing the google photography. Especially going down an area called "Down Rope" where some pre-european petroglyphs are. You basically have to cling to the side of a rock wall down the cliff to get there - dangerous and tiring! It's safe as long as you stick to the trail, and helpful to have a guide, but sometimes things go wrong https://jimmyaroundtheworld.blogspot.com/2010/09/life-and-de...

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Post by vimy »

doublec wrote: post #13
cupcake-unicorn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you answer more questions about the state of the infrastructure there like electricity and internet? On Wikipedia it says there's only one person in charge of the electricity and it goes off every night.

When I was there the power operated until 10pm at night. From that time homes would either run from personal generators, or batteries - to power refrigerators, lights, routers, etc. These days the homes have or are getting solar panels. Internet was terrible at the time. I wrote about it here: https://bluishcoder.co.nz/2012/05/29/pitcairn-island-and-slo... It has improved but is still relatively slow and expensive.

Starlink seems perfect for this island.
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