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On Time, Money and Health

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Re: On Time, Money and Health

#11
Nothing revolutionary in this article but it hit the nail pretty well.

As a 30 yo person with health issues (nothing really bad, but not cool either), I totally acknowledge with the idea that staying healthy is the best gift you could do to your kids and I’ll work hard to give that to my son.

As on money, I have the feeling that the thing you must solve is finding not only your house, but the house you’ll love, so you can invest all of your « useless » extra money in it (extending it, renovating it, decorating it…)… It’ll only increase your house value while making you happier.

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#12
Exactly this. Am 23 (Ghanaian) and this is my final year in the university. I have been working as a software developer at small startups since I started schooling. As this is my final semester, I have decided to quit work and have more free time for myself.

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#13
FIRE definitely makes lots of sense. Even if you don't believe in retiring early. You are in some way already retired by the time you hit 40. This is really for most ordinary folks out there, not the exceptional one's that are chasing law degrees and PhDs in 50s.

Simple way to understand this is, 50s is your retirement decade. Therefore:

1. When you are 40, your resume has just 10 years worth value.

2. When you are 30, your resume has just 20 years worth value.

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Sometime back, a manager advised me the surest way to get promoted is do the job of the level your are aiming for. Same applies to retirement as well. You can't retire unless you are already retired in some way. Else you will just continue far into your 50s without retiring. Then you will be forced to.

Given all this FIRE is definitely a great strategy. The other point on health is very good advice as well. In fact every hour post age 35 spent on things on Leetcode instead of swinging a Kettlebell in many way is wasted time. More importantly in many cases might even give negative returns(Obesity, Diabetes etc).

None of this applies to the outliers of human race of course. But for most folks out there with ordinary lives. Retirement planning and health care should be the single biggest priority of your life through your 20s and 30s.

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#14
I'm in my thirties and I've definitely maximizing time and health. This wasn't a conscious choice, but I've almost always worked significantly less than 40 hours a week. On the flip side, I don't have a huge amount of money. If I had been more dedicated to my career maybe I would have more money in the bank. Would that make a huge difference to my life? It's hard to know.

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#15
Oh well, yes it's good to have balance and think about your present and future. What do you want to sacrifice today, to have more in the future. Apparently the author just wants to make sure that we not fall to deep into the FIRE mindset and sacrifice too many good memories today.

But

F** all that. Somehow we're obsessed with optimizing our lives with ever new ideas how we can have the best life, with the best health, the most money, most free time. We all work with computers and optimizing algorithms, or click-through-rates so we apply these techniques now to our lives and compare ourselves to others. Does someone online has better weights, should I still eat fruits or does this spike my insulin too much. Good god, just live your life without constantly checking on others, it's perfectly fine to live a basic life, it's perfectly fine to waste your time. Yes you don't have unlimited time, but you will be relieved and relaxed without having to self optimize. That doesn't mean you have to be unhealthy and miserable, if you want to change that it's fine, but do it on your terms (The author says, "just stop eating much", which is just arrogant, some things are hard to change and take years of willpower). Will you regret something at the end of your life? Maybe, but you lived your life on your terms and didn't ran from guru to guru. Kierkegaard said the following

``` Marry, and you will regret it; don’t marry, you will also regret it; marry or don’t marry, you will regret it either way. Laugh at the world’s foolishness, you will regret it; weep over it, you will regret that too; laugh at the world’s foolishness or weep over it, you will regret both.```

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#16
I've been recently thinking a lot along the lines of this article, which is why I was surprised to see this being given, as positive advice:

> Make that extra money work for you. Invest into diversified index funds so you can use the power of compound interest, and use that “free money” in the later stage of your life. The earlier you invest, the better it is.

It surprised me because what prompted me to think about the other points the article makes was realization that compound interest is a lie.

I've written about it previously here[0][1]. It's not that the math of compounding is wrong - it's that, in terms of saving money in our economy, a typical person is unlikely to gain any meaningful amount of money through compounding. The rates are too low. If you're lucky enough to front-load your savings early then maybe you'll get something useful out of them... around retirement age. Which is, like the article points out, not exactly the best time to enjoy your wealth.

This isn't to say you shouldn't save or invest your money - just that you shouldn't rely on interest rates to do anything for you. There are opportunities to multiply your wealth faster - if you're willing to shoulder the high risk of losing it. But low-risk options available are so bad that mentioning compound interest is just... noise. Distraction.

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[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637164

[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27838926

Re: On Time, Money and Health

#17
I think claiming that 25-40 is your best years is gross oversimplification. I am 42 and consider it to be the best time of my life. And considering that I will probably be financially independent before my 50s, I think that might be might best decade. Especially after my kids grow up and me and my wife will no longer need to make plans around them.

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#19

One of my friends opined that if most people (limited to people on this forum, let's say) rationally priced in their future earnings, they'd be in debt more often, for longer and earlier in their life. The naive algorithm of "save as much as possible" might land high-earners with a huge nest egg they end up carrying to their grave. I think I agree with that.

This comment is gold. Debt phobia is real. But the facts here are big investments like buying a home, are not possible without debt, and earlier you go into a debt and earlier you can clear it. The earlier you will have that asset. The same logic continues for multiple properties too.

Another big factor in this is Change jobs often is not a workable strategy here. Anybody with regular focus on their health and investments will tell you. You just can't raise money for making big investments(like above) when you don't have a stable job. Same happens with health too. Unfortunately most people often equate rapid changes to a process with progress. Whereas big progress is often a result of consistent improvement to a single process over long periods of time.

In an economic system with Inflation, increasing responsibilities and biology making aging and being healthy hard. Hoping to save up to buy some thing later is strategy that just doesn't work.

Simple reasoning tells us you need to go into debt a lot, early and often.

Re: On Time, Money and Health

#20
I agree mostly with the article and that one should focus on freedom in the moment, while at the same time creating stability for the future.

But the underlying assumption that having more experiences (outside of work) leads to more happiness I believe to be somewhat false. It of course depends on the person, type of experience and definition of hapiness.

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