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Re: Netflix announces Space X documentary on civilian mission into orbit

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What I've been surprised about is that Elon isn't going on either this mission or just one of his own seeing as SpaceX could presumably have two commercial flights.

Given the 'length comparison games' that Branson and Bezos have been up to with their 'near space' escapades it's a massive F U for Elon to do a trip like this which will actually be one of the furthest distances humans have gone from Earth since the moon landings (the orbit is higher than low-earth orbit where the ISS and Chinese space stations are). There's no question these people will become fully fledged astronauts.

I was wondering if shareholder issues and risk could be the problem - but it's not like Elon seems to care about that and Elon is already saying he's going on Virgin Galactic anyway.

Elon, Grimes and two friends going up on a Dragon X capsule for 3 days would be a hoot.

Re: Netflix announces Space X documentary on civilian mission into orbit

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Post by belter »

dotBen wrote: post #11

What I've been surprised about is that Elon isn't going on either this mission or just one of his own seeing as SpaceX could presumably have two commercial flights. Given the 'length comparison games' that Branson and Bezos have been up to with their 'near space' escapades it's a massive F U for Elon to do a trip like this which will actually be one of the furthest distances humans have gone from Earth since the moon…

No, he is keeping himself for another demo. He will be tied up and launched on a Tesla cross country with FSD...

Re: Netflix announces Space X documentary on civilian mission into orbit

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Post by tenpies »

dotBen wrote: post #11

What I've been surprised about is that Elon isn't going on either this mission or just one of his own seeing as SpaceX could presumably have two commercial flights. Given the 'length comparison games' that Branson and Bezos have been up to with their 'near space' escapades it's a massive F U for Elon to do a trip like this which will actually be one of the furthest distances humans have gone from Earth since the moon…

> it's a massive F U for Elon

Is it? Seems to be the only billionaire that doesn't trust his own system enough to fly in it, so I think that's a huge blow and shows a complete lack of confidence / psychopathy. Should not be surprising from the person willing to have untold hundreds die while "training" a "beta" "self-driving" system on public roads.

And in usual Elon fashion if he can't win "it didn't matter anyway".

Re: Netflix announces Space X documentary on civilian mission into orbit

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Post by tw04 »

dotBen wrote: post #11

What I've been surprised about is that Elon isn't going on either this mission or just one of his own seeing as SpaceX could presumably have two commercial flights. Given the 'length comparison games' that Branson and Bezos have been up to with their 'near space' escapades it's a massive F U for Elon to do a trip like this which will actually be one of the furthest distances humans have gone from Earth since the moon…

I'm not sure he cares to be honest. Why would he? His goal is to have humans populating the universe, strapping himself to a rocket for an ego trip would be a rather pointless risk.

I'd say the fact that his company has absolutely destroyed both competitors to date wins any dick waving contest around "but I personally went to space first". I'm not even an Elon fan, and I think he's got a million character flaws, but he seems to be sticking true to the purpose of space-x and tesla and neither one is about bragging to his rich friends with a "LOOK AT ME!".

Re: Netflix announces Space X documentary on civilian mission into orbit

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Post by _Microft »

sandworm101 wrote: post #9
_Microft wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I remember a donation to the hospital made you enter the pool from which a winner for a seat on the flight was drawn. The planned spaceflight is called "Inspiration 4" and has a Wikipedia entry already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration4

Ah, that flight. It is a purchased flight. My understanding is that while they can throw the word "commander" and "pilot" around, that this will be a purely automated/ground-controlled exercise.

Indeed, even though that has not been that different on the crew rotation flights to ISS. Doug Hurley (iirc - might have been Bob Behnken instead?) got to fly Crew Dragon manually during the first crewed mission "Demo 2" but the spacecraft is meant to bring people where they should be all by itself (and with help from ground control).

Re: Netflix announces Space X documentary on civilian mission into orbit

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Post by takeda »

dotBen wrote: post #11

What I've been surprised about is that Elon isn't going on either this mission or just one of his own seeing as SpaceX could presumably have two commercial flights. Given the 'length comparison games' that Branson and Bezos have been up to with their 'near space' escapades it's a massive F U for Elon to do a trip like this which will actually be one of the furthest distances humans have gone from Earth since the moon…

Unlike Blue Origin or Virgin Atlantic SpaceX is not an amusement ride. He doesn't need to prove anything, because he isn't looking for passengers that would pay $250k for a 10 minute ride.

Re: Netflix announces Space X documentary on civilian mission into orbit

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Post by joakleaf »

takeda wrote: post #17
dotBen wrote: post #11

What I've been surprised about is that Elon isn't going on either this mission or just one of his own seeing as SpaceX could presumably have two commercial flights. Given the 'length comparison games' that Branson and Bezos have been up to with their 'near space' escapades it's a massive F U for Elon to do a trip like this which will actually be one of the furthest distances humans have gone from Earth since the moon…

Unlike Blue Origin or Virgin Atlantic SpaceX is not an amusement ride. He doesn't need to prove anything, because he isn't looking for passengers that would pay $250k for a 10 minute ride.

No, but at 200 million for 3 days (1440 minutes) it is still $139000/minute, or almost $1.4 million for 10 minutes.

Re: Netflix announces Space X documentary on civilian mission into orbit

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Post by dotBen »

tw04 wrote: post #14
dotBen wrote: post #11

What I've been surprised about is that Elon isn't going on either this mission or just one of his own seeing as SpaceX could presumably have two commercial flights. Given the 'length comparison games' that Branson and Bezos have been up to with their 'near space' escapades it's a massive F U for Elon to do a trip like this which will actually be one of the furthest distances humans have gone from Earth since the moon…

I'm not sure he cares to be honest. Why would he? His goal is to have humans populating the universe, strapping himself to a rocket for an ego trip would be a rather pointless risk. I'd say the fact that his company has absolutely destroyed both competitors to date wins any dick waving contest around "but I personally went to space first". I'm not even an Elon fan, and I think he's got a million character flaws, but…

He might care because he wants to go to Mars and so presumably it's totally reasonable to assume he might have the opportunity to go to space more than once. He might want to do a 3 day tour of the Earth as the beginning of that.

He might just because he's the kind of guy who pretty much makes loads of his decision 'because he can'. Plaid? Model's S 3 X Y (sexy)? acceleration speeds that are almost unsafe for normal drivers to be handling? A lot of his decisions are outside the norm, which is why (some of us) love him.

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