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Why Managers Fear a Remote-Work Future

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Managers are status seeking people. Part of the status is signaled by showing how many > they have and giving orders to them. Part of the status is signaled by beign able to be out of office whenever they want vs the worker bees that must be at the office 9-to-5 M-to-F. Having to politely ask things on slack to a worker bee that is probably working lying on a couch with a smoothie in it´s hand is a manager vision of…

HN != reddit

I feel that we are converging with each passing day.

Re: Why Managers Fear a Remote-Work Future

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Because it will mean less of them are needed

Why? I understand the author's claims that many managers are not properly suited for their job, but the author never claims that spans of control (how many people a manager can manage) are changing as we move to a fully/more remote work future. Are people finding that managers have become more efficient in remote settings?

Maybe some are, but that's not the point. How busy with real work product were they before?

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Off-Topic Rant: > "Ultimately, Spielberg balked, and last month his company even signed a deal with Netflix, likely because he now sees the writing on the wall: Modern audiences enjoy watching movies at home." Yea, because movies are stupid expensive. 20 years ago it was literally half as much to see a movie. You want more people in the audience in a theater? Lower the price. The simple economics behind this are asto…

Maybe it is not possible for theaters to go low enough to compete with a 65inch+ 4K TV available for $700+?

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Off-Topic Rant: > "Ultimately, Spielberg balked, and last month his company even signed a deal with Netflix, likely because he now sees the writing on the wall: Modern audiences enjoy watching movies at home." Yea, because movies are stupid expensive. 20 years ago it was literally half as much to see a movie. You want more people in the audience in a theater? Lower the price. The simple economics behind this are asto…

Maybe it is not possible for theaters to go low enough to compete with a 65inch+ 4K TV available for $700+?

(In non-COVID times) People still like to get out of the house and go do something. Going to a movie is one of the things they might like to do. However the high cost of a movie ticket is a deterrent to some, so lowering the price is a reasonable reaction to try to get more people to go.

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Managers are status seeking people. Part of the status is signaled by showing how many > they have and giving orders to them. Part of the status is signaled by beign able to be out of office whenever they want vs the worker bees that must be at the office 9-to-5 M-to-F. Having to politely ask things on slack to a worker bee that is probably working lying on a couch with a smoothie in it´s hand is a manager vision of…

If you're actually curious, the content of this post seems based in some sort of bitterness, like you have a specific axe to grind against management in general. I don't feel it contributes anything to the discussion, so I downvoted it. I'm a developer without subordinates.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it is not possible for theaters to go low enough to compete with a 65inch+ 4K TV available for $700+?

(In non-COVID times) People still like to get out of the house and go do something. Going to a movie is one of the things they might like to do. However the high cost of a movie ticket is a deterrent to some, so lowering the price is a reasonable reaction to try to get more people to go.

And for some movies, the theater experience makes it special. Either because of the visual spectacle on a large screen, or the audience reaction. Avengers Endgame on opening weekend was a special experience.

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Well, that article sure confirmed my biases. It seemed like an opinion piece, i.e. speculative. It does look like the author is qualified to speculate, tho. I think managers can suffer from impostor syndrome, possibly even more than their employees. It's pretty easy to spot the behaviors of an insecure manager. Micromanaging. Needing to know all the details. Any now, not having face time as a means to assess his empl…

We haven’t solved asynchronous online management yet. Open source is probably the best model but that’s for well contained software so to speak. There’s probably some middle ground.

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Managers are status seeking people. Part of the status is signaled by showing how many > they have and giving orders to them. Part of the status is signaled by beign able to be out of office whenever they want vs the worker bees that must be at the office 9-to-5 M-to-F. Having to politely ask things on slack to a worker bee that is probably working lying on a couch with a smoothie in it´s hand is a manager vision of…

If you're actually curious, the content of this post seems based in some sort of bitterness, like you have a specific axe to grind against management in general. I don't feel it contributes anything to the discussion, so I downvoted it. I'm a developer without subordinates.

It´s not bitterness. It´s a reality. In fact I worked as a manager for quite a time. Most managers are status seekers, and the freedom remote personnel has devalues their status, and they don´t like that at all.
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