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Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

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Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

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Is there any study on how personality or mental health dicates myopia in someone? I've seen kids suddenly develop myopia when their parents suddenly start fighting (or get divorced), or in teenagers and young adults in schools and colleges when they can't fully deal with the prolonged stress of life. Our thought patterns do have an effect on our eyes, and I've always wondered if too much introspective thinking or depressive ruminative thinking of the kind (where we "look inwards" mentally too much, focusing on our faults or trying to figure out what's wrong with us or the world) over a period of time, contributes to some form of myopia.

Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding here, but I don't think you should attribute the progression of myopia to your glasses. It's likely it would have happened regardless, correlation not causation.

Perhaps I misunderstood Slide 16: Myopia progresses in two stages: (1) near work induces lens spasm, causing pseudo-myopia; (2) use of minus lenses temporarily improves distance vision, but leads to eye elongation and axial myopia. The result of elongation is a need to prescribe stronger minus lenses, in a vicious cycle of ever stronger lenses. I haven't watched the video yet, but this sounds like my experience.

Yeah, it's possibly true but I guess I'm just skeptical that glasses make it worse. It just seems like it would be easy to confuse the symptoms (eye elongation and axial myopia) as being caused by the glasses rather than just by whatever factors originally caused the myopia (or if it was genetic/age driven).

From a brief search it seems that studies show that glasses don't make eyesight worse.

Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

#13

Does anyone have actual experience reversing myopia? During the pandemic my eye sight worsened pretty quickly and I have glasses for the first time ever (presumably the worsening was already there but accelerated by being on my computer more during lockdown, working longer hours, getting out of the house less). My prescription is really slight (I think like -.5 or -.75) and I was really curious if this was reversible…

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Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

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Well... my eyes have gotten progressively worse (more myopic) since I started wearing glasses regularly to work about 5 years ago. This was in my early 30s. Before that I didn't wear glasses most of the time, but I still had some myopia that could be irritating at times. I could still, eg. drive comfortably without glasses. I can no longer do that. It's something that has felt wrong to me, and worried me a lot (you k…

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Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

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Another no-glasses technique I've heard works is Orthokeratology, specially shaped contacts that you wear at night which reshape the lens, and the effects last through the next day. I find contacts incredibly uncomfortable to wear during the day, largely because it's very dry where I live, but I suspect I could wear them comfortably at night.

Ortho-K is fairly expensive ($1-3K from memory), and fairly rare. I could only find a couple places that do it in my entire state.

Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

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There is a sceptical comment from the audience at 36:50 [1]. Maybe someone here has the knowledge to comment about that? Is it true what the person says - that the actual problems with the eyes won't be fixed, you would just get better quality vision through some other way doing this?

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Efg42-Qn0&t=2210s

Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

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Anecdote, as a teen, I was diagnosed as having myopia (mostly on one eye) and got glasses. I refused to wear them most of the time, during that time I spent more time outdoor, looking further away and also develop an habit to stare at points far away whenever I'm thinking. Since I'm 25, whenever I do an eye test, they tell me that I have a very small amount of myopia on one eye but it's very small and I don't need gl…

Another anecdote: I developed myopia in high school and college, where it became progressively more difficult to read what was written on blackboards and transparency projectors. I resolutely refused to get glasses. By the time I got my first pair of glasses at 25, my prescription was around -3.25 in both eyes.

Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

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Another no-glasses technique I've heard works is Orthokeratology, specially shaped contacts that you wear at night which reshape the lens, and the effects last through the next day. I find contacts incredibly uncomfortable to wear during the day, largely because it's very dry where I live, but I suspect I could wear them comfortably at night. Ortho-K is fairly expensive ($1-3K from memory), and fairly rare. I could o…

I use those (DreamLite)and they are getting more and more common in the Netherlands. Every contact lens specialist shop sells them. They around EUR 500 a year including cleaning fluids and check-ups.

Be sure to get checks regularly and practice extra good eye hygiene, because they do have a higher risk of infections, also eye doctors do not recommend them.

Biggest drawback I experience are coronas around bright lights at night, but you do get used to them. I can conformably drive a car at night, because the sight is sharp. The extend also varies from person to person.

If you can tolerate the lenses with your eyes open, you can also already wear them in the evening if you need perfect sight in low light.

On topic: you cannot permanently reverse myopia, but it gets better when you get older for some people.

Ortho-K lenses can however be used by children to stop myopia from getting worse.

Re: Myopia: A Modern yet Reversible Disease

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This looks like total quackery to me, especially given the bogus claims about glasses making myopia worse. Is there any kind of credible scientific evidence for this working?

Bogus claims? Ok anecdotal evidence but I went to the eye doctor with my sibling when I was 8 and she was 10. We BOTH were proscribed the same glasses. I ended up wearing them all the time, and grew up to having a -4.0 by the time I was 30 My sibling? She never wore her glasses growing up and oddly enoug has perfect vision in her mid 30’s

Now granted I spent most of my time growing up playing on the computer and reading - but I was wearing my glasses the whole time so year by year it got worse. Eye doctors say “oh youre just growing into your eyes” when they know that’s not the case. Look at how many children have (pseudo)-myopia due to growing up with smartphones and tablets 24/7. It’s not hard to figure out.

Now I don’t think there’s an exact science to curing myopia but at the very least everyone should practice the 20/20/20 rule and wear their distance glasses as little as possible. Just those 2 things can save you from developing pseudomyopia.

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