Some people like things. Some people don't like things. Can we just accept that different people are different and move on?
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I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it
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Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it
#12I loathe that I'm being asked to go back to an environment of constant chatter for a knowledge, focused job.
Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it
#13> If you like/prefer going to the office that is fine. I am not trying to say we should all be remote. Companies should offer FLEXIBILITY to let employees choose where to work from. That doesn’t work. I prefer working in the office, but only if the rest of my team is actually there with me. If some people are remote, then we have to do Zoom meetings, so I may as well be remote too.
I totally feel the draw to both. Personally, I really like the freedom of WFH and it wins out against the benefits of being in office for me. But I can see the appeal to being in office too; there's something really nice about working with your teammates, especially if you get along with them and learn from each other.
The thing with your attitude though, is that you're saying it only works for you if everyone is in office. Basically that everyone has to be in office for you to enjoy your office environment. This only works on teams where everyone feels this way. And that's a perfectly reasonable approach to hiring for a new company. The problem is that people have been WFH long enough that every team is likely split on 'team-in-office' sentiment. If a company wants to require staff in office at this point, it should be for building new teams, not applied to existing teams. Then people with the same sentiment as you can choose to transfer to those teams if desired.
Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it
#14Some people like things. Some people don't like things. Can we just accept that different people are different and move on?
As long as it gets you a blog post. Did you also notice how the TLDR is at the end of that whole rant?
Majority of the long posts I've seen on reddit have the tldr at the bottom...
Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it
#15> If you like/prefer going to the office that is fine. I am not trying to say we should all be remote. Companies should offer FLEXIBILITY to let employees choose where to work from. That doesn’t work. I prefer working in the office, but only if the rest of my team is actually there with me. If some people are remote, then we have to do Zoom meetings, so I may as well be remote too.
Why should your preferences dictate what other people do? What makes your preference for having people in the office more important than their preference to want to work from home?
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#17I've found the WFH debate to be a great proxy for finding people I definitely don't want to work with. Everyone has a preference. But in my experience, the people that whine the most about having to go to an office are generally the people everyone wishes would stay home anyway.
Or that's someone that spends 3h/day commuting
Like I said, it's ok to have a preference. People that whine about it are toxic.
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#18I went to the office for the first time last week, and I loved it, but I think where I work has a better attitude towards people than where that guy works. Certainly my department does. I went back voluntarily, mainly to get out of the house, and TO wear real clothes again. Tshirt and shorts, but I feel more human than the pajama man I was for the past year. I hope that guy gets a new job!
I’ve been working remotely more than 10 years now.
I get the idea that some people prefer to be around others, to have face to face conversations etc. And some people do not have the best home environment. Maybe they have kids and would prefer an office. And maybe, they just like working at an office. That’s fine.
What I don’t really understand is that people complaining about being in pijamas and being in the house all the time and stuff like that. Just becase they now work from home. At what point working at home meant that you should not shower for a week and have ketchup stains on your face?
Just wear the thing you want, meet with people you like and do as you wish. What is the hold up here?
Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it
#19> If you like/prefer going to the office that is fine. I am not trying to say we should all be remote. Companies should offer FLEXIBILITY to let employees choose where to work from. That doesn’t work. I prefer working in the office, but only if the rest of my team is actually there with me. If some people are remote, then we have to do Zoom meetings, so I may as well be remote too.
Why should your preferences dictate what other people do? What makes your preference for having people in the office more important than their preference to want to work from home?
Work isn’t a democracy.
Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it
#20I've found the WFH debate to be a great proxy for finding people I definitely don't want to work with. Everyone has a preference. But in my experience, the people that whine the most about having to go to an office are generally the people everyone wishes would stay home anyway.
I loved going to office at Google when we had teams of 5 in separate rooms. It was really easy to do team work, talk whenever we wanted. But the walls in the buildings were torn down while the company was growing, and we couldn’t talk without disturbing other teams, while they were disturbing me, and at some point I had to wait 20 minutes after lunch every day when I wanted to go to toilet. I’m happy that I don’t have to deal with that anymore.