wtf they want people who know coffeescript https://bubble.io/job?jid=4377554002
I'll have you know that CoffeeScript is still widely used! \s
cries in legacy code
No-code startup Bubble raises $100M
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#12The market is comparable to Wix? Divi from wordpress? Again, not sure how these companies last and compete where everyone else is learning how to code. I can't foresee a mature product that is achievable without coding, at all. I always thought companies that uses those builders will, at some point, move out from MVP and hire some coders. Well, I guess there're always market for everything.
Well it would be nice to have a no-code solution that elegantly can be moved into a coded solution, but I suspect that a company that makes no-code software has little incentive to help ppl stop using no-code.
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#13wtf they want people who know coffeescript https://bubble.io/job?jid=4377554002
I'll have you know that CoffeeScript is still widely used! \s cries in legacy code
I'm right there with ya cries in not even Coffee version 2.
One day maybe it'll be a lucrative niche for contractor legacy-maintenance warriors.
That'll happen before I convince senior management that startups with React and Typescript can run rings around us, and that I can't find anyone fulltime who wants to work on our stack (or has even worked in not-React)...
If anyone wants to chime in with their stories about using Decaffeinate, I'd be interested!
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#14If you need to go through a boot camp to be able to use it, why not just learn to code?
That is how I often feel about cloud providers like AWS. If you have to invest most of your time in becoming an AWS pro in order use it correctly, why not just learn how to build out a cloud using open standards.. at least that way you actually learned something useful, and not just a vendor solution that serves little purpose outside of its locked-in ecosystem.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll have you know that CoffeeScript is still widely used! \s cries in legacy code
I'm right there with ya cries in not even Coffee version 2 . One day maybe it'll be a lucrative niche for contractor legacy-maintenance warriors. That'll happen before I convince senior management that startups with React and Typescript can run rings around us, and that I can't find anyone fulltime who wants to work on our stack (or has even worked in not-React)... If anyone wants to chime in with their stories about…
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#17They named their startup 'Bubble'? Bold move.
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#18I think the biggest problem with this approach is at some point, they necessarily reach a level of complexity that it takes the same amount of time to learn how to use their "no-code" tools than it does to just learn how to code.
I went down a foolish path once of trying to create a simple flow-diagram -> code generator for the business people to use in order to do some basic logic with regard to email escalations. Got it done and ..... the logic was still hard for them. Oh well. Guess that's why we're paid well.
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#19I think the biggest problem with this approach is at some point, they necessarily reach a level of complexity that it takes the same amount of time to learn how to use their "no-code" tools than it does to just learn how to code.
That’s when they hire “yes-code” people to simplify their setup.
Snark aside though; do whatever floats your boat. Tools that allow non technical folks to start building useful products is still a win (even if I personally wouldn’t make that tradeoff).
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#20If you need to go through a boot camp to be able to use it, why not just learn to code?
That is how I often feel about cloud providers like AWS. If you have to invest most of your time in becoming an AWS pro in order use it correctly, why not just learn how to build out a cloud using open standards.. at least that way you actually learned something useful, and not just a vendor solution that serves little purpose outside of its locked-in ecosystem.
I think there are network effect benefits to having a few standards. Much as I detest vendor lock-in, it is helpful to have an existing pattern such that you can find and hire people who already know it. Right now there exist quite a few proprietary no-code platforms, but I suspect a possibly open standard will emerge, analogous to OpenStack versus AWS, or at least a few “winning” platforms.