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Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

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Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

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This guy is a prime example of not being in contact with reality. I am not against people trying new things, but you better understand the medium you are trying to accomplish something through. This documentary https://youtu.be/eTkj-e82RQk goes over his first attempts to go to Bermuda. It's obvious that he does not understand the sea at all. For his first attempt he didn't have food or even GPS to know where he was g…

I think society needs some people who aren’t in touch with reality.

Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to be fair, it looks like he's iterating: > It was equipped with a satellite phone, a water filtration system, a solar array, neoprene wet suits and a stockpile of granola and ramen noodles for when he embarked from St. Augustine on Friday for what he expected would be a three-week trip.

At about 1k nautical miles between NYC and Miami he'd need to do ~50 nm a day to make it a 3-week trip. That's two marathons per day, a fair stretch even if he managed to make the same propulsive efficiency with his paddle wheel thingy as he would on land.

If he had gotten a bit farther out the Gulf Stream would have picked him up and given him a big speed boost so a little over 3 weeks doesn’t sound unreasonable

Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to be fair, it looks like he's iterating: > It was equipped with a satellite phone, a water filtration system, a solar array, neoprene wet suits and a stockpile of granola and ramen noodles for when he embarked from St. Augustine on Friday for what he expected would be a three-week trip.

At about 1k nautical miles between NYC and Miami he'd need to do ~50 nm a day to make it a 3-week trip. That's two marathons per day, a fair stretch even if he managed to make the same propulsive efficiency with his paddle wheel thingy as he would on land.

The article mentions he'd hoped to get a boost from the gulf stream.

The gulf stream moves at about 5 miles per hour.

Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

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post #12
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At about 1k nautical miles between NYC and Miami he'd need to do ~50 nm a day to make it a 3-week trip. That's two marathons per day, a fair stretch even if he managed to make the same propulsive efficiency with his paddle wheel thingy as he would on land.

If he had gotten a bit farther out the Gulf Stream would have picked him up and given him a big speed boost so a little over 3 weeks doesn’t sound unreasonable

The gulf stream maxes out at about 5 knots, but that does not mean it has that speed everywhere. For a surface vessel without much draft, wind probably has a more significant impact than currents and he'd be very dependent on the changes in the weather. A stiff breeze from the north could easily end up with him further south than he started.

And of course, the further out you go to try and pick up the gulf stream, the further you have to go to get back to shore.

Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

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This guy is a prime example of not being in contact with reality. I am not against people trying new things, but you better understand the medium you are trying to accomplish something through. This documentary https://youtu.be/eTkj-e82RQk goes over his first attempts to go to Bermuda. It's obvious that he does not understand the sea at all. For his first attempt he didn't have food or even GPS to know where he was g…

I’d cut the guy some slack. He’s clearly invested in this journey, literally spending thousands of dollars and decades of his own time. Personally, I think he should be free to do something reckless if it’s only his life at stake. After all, stores sell paint and there isn’t a law against drinking the stuff. It sounds like the only thing he needs to complete the trip is an escort vessel in case the trip goes poorly.…

I think he is endangering himself, I don't think he should be prohibited from doing it.

Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

to be fair, it looks like he's iterating: > It was equipped with a satellite phone, a water filtration system, a solar array, neoprene wet suits and a stockpile of granola and ramen noodles for when he embarked from St. Augustine on Friday for what he expected would be a three-week trip.

> a stockpile of granola and ramen noodles Ridiculousness aside, are these good choices? I'm inclined to think not. Ramen is a good ratio of calories per dollar, but what he really needs are nutrient dense foods, probably with a lot of protein given how physically difficult this is likely to be. I would think dehydrated meat or something.

There are two camps about runner foods.

The Keto crowd, they tend to eat nuts.

The rest, eat high carbs foods, think bananas, oats, gummies.

Both of them need a huge amount of fuel. A marathon burns about 2,500 calories from exercise alone, for the average person their TDEE is about 2000. So 4,500 calories a day to break even, without taking into account the heat.

At 4.5K calories, that's 94.5K calories for 3 weeks. The average granola bar is 132 calories, let's pretend he chose a nutrient dense one for 150. That's 630 granola bars. It's not impossible, but not ideal.

You also need to deal with mineral deficiencies for 3 weeks worth of travel. Sodium and Potassium are both needed for intense exercise, which two marathons a day definitely counts.

Like I said, he has as crazy idea, but he is not in touch with reality.

Dehydrated meat would probably be good....now I wonder how he goes to the bathroom.

Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

#17

This guy is a prime example of not being in contact with reality. I am not against people trying new things, but you better understand the medium you are trying to accomplish something through. This documentary https://youtu.be/eTkj-e82RQk goes over his first attempts to go to Bermuda. It's obvious that he does not understand the sea at all. For his first attempt he didn't have food or even GPS to know where he was g…

I’d cut the guy some slack. He’s clearly invested in this journey, literally spending thousands of dollars and decades of his own time. Personally, I think he should be free to do something reckless if it’s only his life at stake. After all, stores sell paint and there isn’t a law against drinking the stuff. It sounds like the only thing he needs to complete the trip is an escort vessel in case the trip goes poorly.…

> I think he should be free to do something reckless if it’s only his life at stake.

It's never only the one guy. There's rescue people and equipment, taking their time from other rescue work and possibly putting their lives in danger. And tax dollars.

Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

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This guy is a prime example of not being in contact with reality. I am not against people trying new things, but you better understand the medium you are trying to accomplish something through. This documentary https://youtu.be/eTkj-e82RQk goes over his first attempts to go to Bermuda. It's obvious that he does not understand the sea at all. For his first attempt he didn't have food or even GPS to know where he was g…

"Out of touch with reality" has connotations of hallucinations or psychotic episodes, which I don't think he's demonstrating.

This guy is simply not doing appropriate levels of prior art/background information/competitive research before embarking on a project.

At some level, that's good, because for something that's not been done yet research can be interpreted to suggest it can't be done. But yeah, he takes it much too far.

Re: Man tries to go over water from Florida to NYC in makeshift human hamster wheel

#19

This guy is a prime example of not being in contact with reality. I am not against people trying new things, but you better understand the medium you are trying to accomplish something through. This documentary https://youtu.be/eTkj-e82RQk goes over his first attempts to go to Bermuda. It's obvious that he does not understand the sea at all. For his first attempt he didn't have food or even GPS to know where he was g…

A family member of mine is in charge of search and rescue in the coast guard to in south Florida and I remember him telling me about this guy. He was warned but ignored it all and they had to tell him the resources they would have to pull to help him anything happened. I think they made him sign a paper saying “I’m an idiot and I won’t call the CG if something happens”

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post #4

This guy is a prime example of not being in contact with reality. I am not against people trying new things, but you better understand the medium you are trying to accomplish something through. This documentary https://youtu.be/eTkj-e82RQk goes over his first attempts to go to Bermuda. It's obvious that he does not understand the sea at all. For his first attempt he didn't have food or even GPS to know where he was g…

Is it moral to let this guy kill himself this way if he insists on it?

Moral where? Morals is not the same everywhere. But regardless why wouldn’t you have the freedom of doing whatever if you’re not killing someone else?
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