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The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

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Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

#11

A multi-page PDF of monospaced green text on black, looking like it escaped from an Apple ][? I found this literally unreadable on mobile, and would appreciate it if somebody has a pointer to the content in a sane format.

https://aydacfu.xyz/downloads/1111B_WhitePaper_traditional.p...

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

#12
It's an interesting proposal (make 0123456789.xyz available for cheap and thus allow more widespread use of custom domain names for various applications), except for two things:

1. This is basically just a strategy for XYZ to generate tons of new revenue from otherwise junk domains ($0.99 * 1.11B names = $1,098,900,000)

2. We don't need to charge for domain names to allow a wider array of applications to communicate using personalized global addressing.

E-mail is the standard example: throwaway984393@mailprovider.com does not cost me anything at all, but it's personalized. Mail provider has to pay for a domain, but nobody else needs to. This kind of free personalized addressing is a design choice. In fact, you don't even need to use DNS at all, as many peer-to-peer networks (Bitcoin, IPFS, BitTorrent/Gnutella/Napster, YaCy, Usenet, etc) have shown.

A 3rd potential problem with this proposal is that if it were expanded to other TLDs, it may generate significantly more traffic for the DNS root.

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

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"recommended retail price of $0.99" Am I getting cynical? Seems like no businesses are going to use this recommended price.

domain registrars are a pretty competitive business, so I'm pretty confident that at least a few would offer it at that price.

That's approaching credit card transaction fee. What do you get in turn? Identity verification? Nope. Broadcasting your personal details to every spammer on the internet? Yes.

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

#14

It's an interesting proposal (make 0123456789.xyz available for cheap and thus allow more widespread use of custom domain names for various applications), except for two things: 1. This is basically just a strategy for XYZ to generate tons of new revenue from otherwise junk domains ($0.99 * 1.11B names = $1,098,900,000) 2. We don't need to charge for domain names to allow a wider array of applications to communicate…

To me it's not interesring because it suffers from the same issue all the alternatives have.

Getting a domain is not prohibitively expensive if you have low standards for the url (which presumably you do if "93736474.xyz" works)

So the inevitable result is that a large number of applications using these will be so low effort they couldn't get a much better domain for barely more money, and that will probably end up being a mix of spam, malicious applications, and questionable content.

And the end result is everyone blocking traffic from .xyz. Just like someurl@extracheaphosting.com is.

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

#15

A multi-page PDF of monospaced green text on black, looking like it escaped from an Apple ][? I found this literally unreadable on mobile, and would appreciate it if somebody has a pointer to the content in a sane format.

Yeah, calling it a "white" paper is a bit of a stretch. I kind of want to try printing it, but toner isn't cheap.

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

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post #5
post #3

"recommended retail price of $0.99" Am I getting cynical? Seems like no businesses are going to use this recommended price.

As a teenager making $5.50 and later a whopping $5.75/hr working in retail, I never bought a domain or hosting, as they were outside of my budget. At the time (late 90s) domains were $14.95 on sale, and regularly $19.95. It wasn't until college that I had enough available resources to buy a domain, and at the time I went ahead and bought 5 years. I probably missed out on 3 or 4 years of my life when I had virtually u…

It was worse than that. I recall domains being $70 for 2 years. This is confirmed in the Wikipedia page for Network Solutions, who held a monopoly on registration at the time.

“Following the acquisition by SAIC, the NSF gave Network Solutions authority to charge for domain name registrations. Network Solutions imposed a charge of $100 for two years registration. 30% of this revenue went to the NSF to create an "Internet Intellectual Infrastructure Fund." In 1997, a lawsuit was filed charging Network Solutions with antitrust violations with regard to domain names. The 30% of the registration fee that went to the NSF was ruled by a court to be an illegal tax. This led to a reduction in the domain name registration fee to $70 (for two years).”

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

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post #11

A multi-page PDF of monospaced green text on black, looking like it escaped from an Apple ][? I found this literally unreadable on mobile, and would appreciate it if somebody has a pointer to the content in a sane format.

https://aydacfu.xyz/downloads/1111B_WhitePaper_traditional.p...

OK, that's less bad, although formatting a press release as a scholarly paper typeset with LaTeX is still weird.

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

#18
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In developing countries at least it seems like it could be a really big deal. When a daily wage is $5 USD, making a domain $0.99 is much more friendly and encouraging, the difference of two days wages vs. a fifth of a day

There are loads of free DNS services that hand out subdomains at no cost.

Free subdomains and domains out of your control like tk/cf/ga are somewhat different from a full domain subject to registrar rules.

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

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post #5
post #3

"recommended retail price of $0.99" Am I getting cynical? Seems like no businesses are going to use this recommended price.

As a teenager making $5.50 and later a whopping $5.75/hr working in retail, I never bought a domain or hosting, as they were outside of my budget. At the time (late 90s) domains were $14.95 on sale, and regularly $19.95. It wasn't until college that I had enough available resources to buy a domain, and at the time I went ahead and bought 5 years. I probably missed out on 3 or 4 years of my life when I had virtually u…

As a teenager back in 2000 I got my .com domain for free from namezero. When I got into university and got my first credit card, the first thing I used it for was to buy my domain out to own it myself (I think it was like $20-$30 from Network Solutions)

These days there are so many free DynDNS services out there that I don't know if a $1 domain on some weird TLD is that enticing.

Re: The 1.111B class of $0.99 .xyz domains white paper

#20

It's an interesting proposal (make 0123456789.xyz available for cheap and thus allow more widespread use of custom domain names for various applications), except for two things: 1. This is basically just a strategy for XYZ to generate tons of new revenue from otherwise junk domains ($0.99 * 1.11B names = $1,098,900,000) 2. We don't need to charge for domain names to allow a wider array of applications to communicate…

To me it's not interesring because it suffers from the same issue all the alternatives have. Getting a domain is not prohibitively expensive if you have low standards for the url (which presumably you do if "93736474.xyz" works) So the inevitable result is that a large number of applications using these will be so low effort they couldn't get a much better domain for barely more money, and that will probably end up b…

>Getting a domain is not prohibitively expensive if you have low standards for the url

finally every famous fake phone number could have a domain https://www.steveharveyfm.com/content/2017-05-30-12-songs-wi...

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