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Disinformation: It’s History

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Re: Disinformation: It’s History

#11

Don't downvote me. But whenever I can't figure out the politics of the historian in the first five sentences of their writing, I assume it's a Republican. Then I stop reading because I don't know any intellectually honest Republicans. I know this author is Canadian, but Being a Republican is a state of mind that transcends American election cycles, and here it is, on full display, a bad faith muddy criticism of Joe B…

WTF did I just read.

Re: Disinformation: It’s History

#12

Don't downvote me. But whenever I can't figure out the politics of the historian in the first five sentences of their writing, I assume it's a Republican. Then I stop reading because I don't know any intellectually honest Republicans. I know this author is Canadian, but Being a Republican is a state of mind that transcends American election cycles, and here it is, on full display, a bad faith muddy criticism of Joe B…

WTF did I just read.

Someone whose brain exploded five years ago and who still hasn't recovered. There's a mental health crisis among the managerial elite in the U.S., that's obvious to any outside observer.

Re: Disinformation: It’s History

#14

Don't downvote me. But whenever I can't figure out the politics of the historian in the first five sentences of their writing, I assume it's a Republican. Then I stop reading because I don't know any intellectually honest Republicans. I know this author is Canadian, but Being a Republican is a state of mind that transcends American election cycles, and here it is, on full display, a bad faith muddy criticism of Joe B…

No idea what you mean with historians (also some other parts of the comment), but I think you’re conflating Republicans as in voters with Republican politicians. While the latter are generally what they are, the former can be many things, in particular misinformed victims of the latter.

Re: Disinformation: It’s History

#17
Nihilism makes me believe that Trump was not such abnormal occurrence.

Human minds have a innate desire for virtue and truth, and since objectivity doesn't exist, it becomes difficult to admit that voters would end up create an alternative truth, or at least not at this scale.

I think it always came from the fact that truth doesn't really exist. Humans can really believe anything. There is no good and no evil.

In a way, nobody should have been surprised that Trump would get elected. I don't think "misinformation" really exists, it's just unsettled disagreements about what information and truth is. What happened in 2016 was an anomaly, but it was never impossible.

Re: Disinformation: It’s History

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post #17

Nihilism makes me believe that Trump was not such abnormal occurrence. Human minds have a innate desire for virtue and truth, and since objectivity doesn't exist, it becomes difficult to admit that voters would end up create an alternative truth, or at least not at this scale. I think it always came from the fact that truth doesn't really exist. Humans can really believe anything. There is no good and no evil. In a w…

This is a great comment. People can believe anything.

As a current example, in the United States the Republican party has been against vaccines. And have been telling their base to doubt them or not get them. Fox news has lead the way along with lots of other media channels.

But for some reason they changed this week and started claiming everyone needs a vaccine. So the complete opposite story. And no one batted an eye.

It is like living in 1984 to a degree. So weird.

Re: Disinformation: It’s History

#19

Don't downvote me. But whenever I can't figure out the politics of the historian in the first five sentences of their writing, I assume it's a Republican. Then I stop reading because I don't know any intellectually honest Republicans. I know this author is Canadian, but Being a Republican is a state of mind that transcends American election cycles, and here it is, on full display, a bad faith muddy criticism of Joe B…

This sounds like it was written by GPT-3.

Re: Disinformation: It’s History

#20
post #17

Nihilism makes me believe that Trump was not such abnormal occurrence. Human minds have a innate desire for virtue and truth, and since objectivity doesn't exist, it becomes difficult to admit that voters would end up create an alternative truth, or at least not at this scale. I think it always came from the fact that truth doesn't really exist. Humans can really believe anything. There is no good and no evil. In a w…

Claiming truth doesn't exist as fact is a truthy statement. Claiming objectivity doesn't exist is a contradiction.
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