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Re: Forem Self-Host

#11

Post by 0des »

Something1234 wrote: post #8
indigodaddy wrote: post #2

I’m disappointed that there is not a “cloud-agnostic” version. Eg a script that you can deploy to any cloud/provider ssh/instance endpoint.

Or any shared hosting provider. It bugs me so much how every project seems to think I want to run a cloud instance to host it and bring in that maintenance burden. It's stupid. Give me shared any day for the small stuff.

While it would be nice to have these things, think about it: this isn't a product someone is selling us, they were doing their own thing making something that worked for them and stopped and thought "dang I bet the other nerds out there would use this" and then did what they could to open source it. That in itself this is generous, and nowhere does it imply any other types of agreement. Does that make some of us sad? sure! Is that this dev's problem? absolutely not.

Re: Forem Self-Host

#12

Post by gizdan »

canadaduane wrote: post #3

I'm a big fan of software that makes better communities possible online. Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software," I've always wished there were something simpler to deploy. However, my first impression of Forem is, "this software looks complicated." Can anyone more familiar briefly speak to the trade-offs that were made? Why podman, butane, ansible? Most communities are…

> Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software,"

I know this is besides your point, but I wouldn't credit Discourse with any standards but horrible UX. It's the worse of (new) Reddit combined with the worst of forum software. Horrendous.

Re: Forem Self-Host

#14

Post by agustif »

beaconstudios wrote: post #6

how did dev.to and hackernoon appear so suddenly? For the longest time it was just medium and random people's blogs and all of a sudden these two platforms just got huge.

Hackernoon at least was on medium as a publication for along time... They might decided to transition off when medium dropped the own domain support

Re: Forem Self-Host

#15

Post by k__ »

antifa wrote: post #13

What kind of JS and HTML templates is the front end? It's not clear from a quick skim of the github mobile website.

Last time I looked, the frontend was built with Preact.

Re: Forem Self-Host

#16

Post by bhalp1 »

0des wrote: post #11
Something1234 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or any shared hosting provider. It bugs me so much how every project seems to think I want to run a cloud instance to host it and bring in that maintenance burden. It's stupid. Give me shared any day for the small stuff.

While it would be nice to have these things, think about it: this isn't a product someone is selling us, they were doing their own thing making something that worked for them and stopped and thought "dang I bet the other nerds out there would use this" and then did what they could to open source it. That in itself this is generous, and nowhere does it imply any other types of agreement. Does that make some of us sad?…

This is true— But also, we will support the journey towards being 100% cloud agnostic— It just wasn't worth holding up this release to get it all perfect.

Nothing is deeply cloud-specific in the core stack— Opportunities to go cloud agnostic are there, we just might have to do it via contribution, as we have a few important projects on the go with conflict with the time this would take. But it's open source, and it will happen :)

Re: Forem Self-Host

#17

Post by ajklsdhfniuwehf »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #9

Very strange and undesirable to launch with such specific cloud options.

i guess buying "clouds" now is just as accepted as buying a domain. (note how on both, the term buying doesn't mean buying, but having the privilege to continue to rent)

i can see myself in the 90s cursing about all the lame rich kids just paying for silly domain names instead of using readily available IP addresses you needed to host already.

Re: Forem Self-Host

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Post by warglebargle »

gizdan wrote: post #12
canadaduane wrote: post #3

I'm a big fan of software that makes better communities possible online. Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software," I've always wished there were something simpler to deploy. However, my first impression of Forem is, "this software looks complicated." Can anyone more familiar briefly speak to the trade-offs that were made? Why podman, butane, ansible? Most communities are…

> Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software," I know this is besides your point, but I wouldn't credit Discourse with any standards but horrible UX. It's the worse of (new) Reddit combined with the worst of forum software. Horrendous.

Have you used reddit lately? you can’t even read a lot of it without downloading the app

Re: Forem Self-Host

#20

Post by chrismorgan »

gizdan wrote: post #12
canadaduane wrote: post #3

I'm a big fan of software that makes better communities possible online. Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software," I've always wished there were something simpler to deploy. However, my first impression of Forem is, "this software looks complicated." Can anyone more familiar briefly speak to the trade-offs that were made? Why podman, butane, ansible? Most communities are…

> Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software," I know this is besides your point, but I wouldn't credit Discourse with any standards but horrible UX. It's the worse of (new) Reddit combined with the worst of forum software. Horrendous.

More recently they’ve made it work without JavaScript. I disable JavaScript by default for various reasons (but more about performance than privacy), and I’ve actually stopped enabling JavaScript for Discourse because I prefer its functionality that way.
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