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Anonymous & Lulz Security Statement to the FBI

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Re: Anonymous & Lulz Security Statement to the FBI

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Who writes this stuff? It comes across as silly, hyperbolic, and even melodramatic, and detracts from the actual content. Lulz: consider this constructive criticism. Take it down a notch.

I'm (hoping) guessing a 14 year old kid with too much time on his hands

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Can someone rehost this elsewhere like pastie.org or something? Pastebin is blocked by websense. :/

Hello thar FBI and international law authorities,

We recently stumbled across the following article with amazement and a certain amount of amusement:

http://www.npr.org/2011/07/20/138555799/fbi-arrests-alleged-...

The statements made by deputy assistant FBI director Steve Chabinsky in this article clearly seem to be directed at Anonymous and Lulz Security, and we are happy to provide you with a response.

You state:

  "We want to send a message that chaos on the Internet is unacceptable, 
  [even if] hackers can be believed to have social causes, it's entirely 
  unacceptable to break into websites and commit unlawful acts."
Now let us be clear here, Mr. Chabinsky, while we understand that you and your colleagues may find breaking into websites unacceptable, let us tell you what WE find unacceptable:

* Governments lying to their citizens and inducing fear and terror to keep them in control by dismantling their freedom piece by piece.

* Corporations aiding and conspiring with said governments while taking advantage at the same time by collecting billions of funds for federal contracts we all know they can't fulfil.

* Lobby conglomerates who only follow their agenda to push the profits higher, while at the same time being deeply involved in governments around the world with the only goal to infiltrate and corrupt them enough so the status quo will never change.

These governments and corporations are our enemy. And we will continue to fight them, with all methods we have at our disposal, and that certainly includes breaking into their websites and exposing their lies.

We are not scared any more. Your threats to arrest us are meaningless to us as you cannot arrest an idea. Any attempt to do so will make your citizens more angry until they will roar in one gigantic choir. It is our mission to help these people and there is nothing - absolutely nothing - you can possibly to do make us stop.

  "The Internet has become so important to so many people that we have to 
  ensure that the World Wide Web does not become the Wild Wild West."
Let me ask you, good sir, when was the Internet not the Wild Wild West? Do you really believe you were in control of it at any point? You were not.

That does not mean that everyone behaves like an outlaw. You see, most people do not behave like bandits if they have no reason to. We become bandits on the Internet because you have forced our hand. The Anonymous bitchslap rings through your ears like hacktivism movements of the 90s. We're back - and we're not going anywhere. Expect us.

Re: Anonymous & Lulz Security Statement to the FBI

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What are they gonna do when every govt/corporate website starts sanitizing its webapps' input and patching its network services? All they'll be able to do is DoS.

Wouldn't it be funny if the FBI & associated agencies actually worked to increase the security of the nation's networks instead of acting surprised every time they get penetrated?

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I read "Lobby conglomerates who only follow their agenda to push the profits higher" and instantly pictured an executive somewhere rolling his eyes as he reads that. I understand the feelings disgust with the current state of the system, and I get how in leu of an actual solution one would feel frustrated enough to act out in the ways that they have, but I stand firm in my belief that there is a better way of accompl…

As far as some of the more "vandalism / hax0rs having fun" type things like redirecting the Sun's homepage I mostly agree, but the documents they've acquired might cause actual damage to the people they oppose, depending on what they contain. So that portion might be effective.

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Reminds me of the hacker's manifesto, but a lot less eloquent.

I find the idea of a bunch of 4chan, excuse me, "newfags" and "oldfags" frakking around the internet "for the lulz" and/or "shits and giggles" a lot more friendly and support-worthy than the same people rolling out a huge Robin-Hood/"the abused Davids striking back against Goliath Corps" banner and all in the name of "true justice" and "freedom".

I miss the "wild wild west" internet a lot but the last thing we need is yet another entity pushing its interests onto the web.

Hack and deface and publish, by all means, for great lulz! You are a lot more unique, random, loveable and (actually) useful that way.

Re: Anonymous & Lulz Security Statement to the FBI

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What are they gonna do when every govt/corporate website starts sanitizing its webapps' input and patching its network services? All they'll be able to do is DoS. Wouldn't it be funny if the FBI & associated agencies actually worked to increase the security of the nation's networks instead of acting surprised every time they get penetrated?

>What are they gonna do when every govt/corporate website starts sanitizing its webapps' input and patching its network services?

If that actually happens as a direct result of lulzsec, I submit that they should be given some sort of medal, and their choice of pacific islands.

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What are they gonna do when every govt/corporate website starts sanitizing its webapps' input and patching its network services? All they'll be able to do is DoS. Wouldn't it be funny if the FBI & associated agencies actually worked to increase the security of the nation's networks instead of acting surprised every time they get penetrated?

>What are they gonna do when every govt/corporate website starts sanitizing its webapps' input and patching its network services?

That's among their stated goals.

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post #10

Who writes this stuff? It comes across as silly, hyperbolic, and even melodramatic, and detracts from the actual content. Lulz: consider this constructive criticism. Take it down a notch.

I'm (hoping) guessing a 14 year old kid with too much time on his hands

Or a 30-40 year old trying to impress, mobilize and exploit 14 year old kids with too much time on their hands.
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