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Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by justwanttolearn »

mygoodaccount wrote: post #2

RESULTS: Symptoms were present in 385 (89%) participants at diagnosis and 81 (19%) were initially hospitalized. At six to eight months, 111 (26%) reported not having fully recovered. 233 (55%) participants reported symptoms of fatigue, 96 (25%) had at least grade 1 dyspnea 111 (26%) had DASS-21 scores indicating symptoms of depression. 170 (40%) participants reported at least one general practitioner visit related to…

I haven't had covid but I definitely suffer a lot of these symptoms from the pandemic burn out..

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Post by Miner49er »

> Third, we did not have a baseline (pre-COVID-19) assessment of participants’ physical and mental health. Thus, it is impossible to distinguish the effects of COVID-19 from pre-existing conditions. The interpretation of our findings regarding depression and anxiety is further limited by the psychological burden that the pandemic may impose in general [48, 49]. While we tried to compare our results with estimates from the general population, applicable comparison data was not available. Other studies investigating longer-term sequelae after SARS-CoV-2 infection found a relevant excess risk for longer-term symptoms among infected individuals compared to SARS-CoV-2-negative control groups [9, 50].

Kind of hard to tell what this result means without a control or baseline, IMO.

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Post by jacquesm »

mygoodaccount wrote: post #10
jacquesm wrote: post #3

One of those cases here. Symptoms: suddenly out of energy, occasionally suddenly being unable to spell, even mild physical exercise leaves me floored (and I was pretty fit for my age prior to this). So, 17 months in: it's still not back to where it used to be but if you think of it in terms of trends instead of absolutes it is definitely still improving. The downs are less far down, the fog is lifting and the energy…

Another one here (Woman, 24 y.o.). Contracted COVID, had a terrible three-weeks of infection. Nine months later, I am having weekly heart palpitations, I'm constantly fatigued and fogged in the mind and my lung capacity is half what it used to be - I now require an inhaler to go on my runs. I know several women my age experiencing far worse. Long COVID should not be ignored.

Ah yes, the heart thing. Forgot to mention that because it hasn't happened for a couple of months now but I would wake up at night every now and then with my heart going like I just ran a marathon. But that fortunately completely went away.

As for lung capacity: I used to play saxophone pretty fanatically and I think that is one of the reasons I got through this with a relatively low amount of damage.

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Post by jacquesm »

justwanttolearn wrote: post #5
jacquesm wrote: post #3

One of those cases here. Symptoms: suddenly out of energy, occasionally suddenly being unable to spell, even mild physical exercise leaves me floored (and I was pretty fit for my age prior to this). So, 17 months in: it's still not back to where it used to be but if you think of it in terms of trends instead of absolutes it is definitely still improving. The downs are less far down, the fog is lifting and the energy…

I am so sorry to hear, I hope you feel back to normal soon! What are you doing to manage your symptoms right now? Are you exercising, taking vitamins, prescribed drugs, seeing a therapist, etc?

Exercising mostly, cycle as much as I can. Vitamins, drugs or therapists I haven't needed so far other than what is in my normal (pretty healthy) food.

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Post by Frondo »

jacquesm wrote: post #3

One of those cases here. Symptoms: suddenly out of energy, occasionally suddenly being unable to spell, even mild physical exercise leaves me floored (and I was pretty fit for my age prior to this). So, 17 months in: it's still not back to where it used to be but if you think of it in terms of trends instead of absolutes it is definitely still improving. The downs are less far down, the fog is lifting and the energy…

Hey man, similar thing here. Every six months or so, almost to the day, I've got a spell for about 7-10 days where I have an immense fatigue, like sleeping 12-15 hours at a stretch, and a brain fog that makes it impossible to concentrate on anything. Then it all lifts, and I go back to my usual 7 hours a night, thinking all day and night. This all started for me in February of 2020, too, just before the lockdowns; I didn't get a positive test at the time because my live-in partner did receive one -- the testing clinic said with the positive exposure to just stay home and go to the hospital if I can't breathe -- since then we've both had the same symptoms at roughly the same occurrence.

It sucks.

Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by inglor_cz »

Six months after the end of a mild case: occassional heart arrhythmias, but getting less frequent. I got medication (Concor) to control them.

Muscle twitching, also getting less frequent, but increasing after exercise or caffeine. Incidentally, the cardiologist who takes care about my arrhythmias has after-Covid muscle twitching too and a few days ago told me that another of his patients, fresh after Covid, has them as well.

So there seem to be lingering issues. Hopefully not of the fatal or life-shortening kind, but this cannot really be ruled out.

BTW My Covid was really fairly mild, only about 30 hours of fever and sweating plus a few days of blocked nose. No pneumonia or even much cough at all.

Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by seriousquestion »

Correct me if wrong, but this doesn't appear to have a non-Covid-19 control group?

This study on Long Covid found there was no statistical difference between teenagers that had Covid compared to those that didn't. Suggesting that these symptoms may be getting entangled and misattributed.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.11.21257037v...

Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by mygoodaccount »

jacquesm wrote: post #14
mygoodaccount wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another one here (Woman, 24 y.o.). Contracted COVID, had a terrible three-weeks of infection. Nine months later, I am having weekly heart palpitations, I'm constantly fatigued and fogged in the mind and my lung capacity is half what it used to be - I now require an inhaler to go on my runs. I know several women my age experiencing far worse. Long COVID should not be ignored.

Ah yes, the heart thing. Forgot to mention that because it hasn't happened for a couple of months now but I would wake up at night every now and then with my heart going like I just ran a marathon. But that fortunately completely went away. As for lung capacity: I used to play saxophone pretty fanatically and I think that is one of the reasons I got through this with a relatively low amount of damage.

> As for lung capacity: I used to play saxophone pretty fanatically and I think that is one of the reasons I got through this with a relatively low amount of damage.

Funnily enough, I used to play the flute and sing before contracting COVID. With my lung capacity halved, my ability is nowhere near what it used to be. Long COVID has taken all my hobbies away from me: running, singing, hip-hop dancing. If anyone knows of any support groups relating to Long COVID, please let me know.

Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by FiReaNG3L »

abystander wrote: post #8

Since they claim a quarter of patients are showing symptoms and one of those is depression - how do they separate the out the effect of the de facto criminalization of social activity, an innate human behavior ingrained in our DNA after millions of years of evolution? You'd get significant depression in solitary confinement too.

No idea why you're getting downvoted - they have no control group and as you say there's 'depression' in their symptoms they count for. I'm pretty sure 'depression' (which I'm sure they don't count as clinically depressed, but 'im feeling more depressed') went up significantly in the whole population last year.

Also PLoS one is basically not peer reviewed - they accept every paper after a short review.

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