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Re: Optimizing inputs and becoming indistractable

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Post by Darmody » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 9:00 AM UTC

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #9

Darmody wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are a "sovereign-individual" if you have a tight schedule and that's what you really want. I wish I could do that but it looks like I can't without meds or a higher purpose (or something that motivates/obsesses me).

The question is why would they want to live like that? Are they still in control, or is it our capitalist society's firm grip on our lives that tells us we have to become ever more efficient, ever more robot-like? It's a serious question about the meaning of life. Do we want our societies be run like Toyota factories?

That's up to each individual.

If you have goals and you want to accomplish them, you'll want to be like that. At least for a period of time.

The thing is having the choice to do what you think it's best.

Re: Optimizing inputs and becoming indistractable

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Post by gumby » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 1:25 PM UTC

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #7

Not a bad read, probably the most succinctly worded self-help piece regarding time management that I've seen so far. I'm still not convinced I have to live like that. The site is ironically called sovereign-individual , yet the author seems to have every minute of their life bound by a schedule. Is that our ultimate purpose as humans?

If you control that schedule, it could relax you because you don’t have to make prioritizing decisions in the moment. If other people control your schedule (as is true for many work environments, at least) then this level scheduling is most likely to be quite stressful.

Other people (generally) don’t control my schedule, so I do like like having blocks of time clearly marked out. But I’m much less fanatical: I just make my schedule the night before, and it’s generally a couple of 2-3 hour blocks with blank time inbetween. But it’s stress relieving for me to know, say, that my bills will be paid (or with autopay, supervised) at some point so that I can safely ignore the bills the rest of the time. Or to know that something bad isn’t going to happen because I went outside with a book for a few hours.

Re: Optimizing inputs and becoming indistractable

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Post by blooalien » Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 10:15 PM UTC

Darmody wrote: post #8

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #7

Not a bad read, probably the most succinctly worded self-help piece regarding time management that I've seen so far. I'm still not convinced I have to live like that. The site is ironically called sovereign-individual , yet the author seems to have every minute of their life bound by a schedule. Is that our ultimate purpose as humans?

You are a "sovereign-individual" if you have a tight schedule and that's what you really want. I wish I could do that but it looks like I can't without meds or a higher purpose (or something that motivates/obsesses me).

> … "higher purpose (or something that motivates/obsesses me)."

The magic trick here is to find something you truly enjoy doing and then figure out how to get other people to pay you to do that thing for them. Contract work/freelancing can be a joyful and rewarding way to live a "sovereign" life. ;)

Re: Optimizing inputs and becoming indistractable

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Post by PascalPrecht » Tue, Jul 20, 2021, 8:40 PM UTC

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #9

Darmody wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are a "sovereign-individual" if you have a tight schedule and that's what you really want. I wish I could do that but it looks like I can't without meds or a higher purpose (or something that motivates/obsesses me).

The question is why would they want to live like that? Are they still in control, or is it our capitalist society's firm grip on our lives that tells us we have to become ever more efficient, ever more robot-like? It's a serious question about the meaning of life. Do we want our societies be run like Toyota factories?

Hi, the author here.

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't realize people were actually commenting here...

So coming back to your question:

In my case, I'm lucky enough to work for a company that is entirely distributed and decentralized and doesn't actually tell me when and how long to work as long as the output is sound.

Obviously, in practice you most often have to put in some hours to get stuff done (that's what I'm being paid for after all). So while my work schedule isn't enforced, I chose for myself to work at these hours (not just for my employer) because I tend to function best at those hours.

Now... do I want to reserve several hours of each day for work for the rest of my life? Certainly not. But that's what work right now for me and it can and will totally change in the future.

Re: Optimizing inputs and becoming indistractable

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Post by PascalPrecht » Tue, Jul 20, 2021, 8:43 PM UTC

danpat wrote: post #4

I would love to see something like this written by someone with a young family. I find myself living JIT subject to the whimsical demands of small children for extended periods, and often wonder if it's even possible to re-arrange life in this context to try to re-capture some sanity. Usually I just give up and bathe myself in the chaos, hoping that it's just a few years and then some semblance of sanity will return…

Hi, the author here.

You're raising a great point. While I'm not living together with my partner, we do have a little family and I'm very much with you that it's super hard to get anything done with kids around.

Unless you get up super early, stay up super late after kids are in bed, or use the time when they aren't around (e.g. kindergarden), I also think that it's almost impossible to fully focus on something for a longer period.

I guess it kind of boils down to finding the right routines. That certainly doesn't make it easier...