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Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by mihaifm » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:31 AM UTC

Thanks. Can't say I'm surprised of developers not including relevant links on their readme page.

Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by BossingAround » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:32 AM UTC

> I don't know about others but personally magit changed the way I think about git and version control.

Why? What changed in your view?

Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by ddek » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:34 AM UTC

In general I agree, but one thing I've never learned is resolving merge conflicts in the CLI. I've always just used IDEA's merge resolution tools. Does CLI git provide any tools to help with merging?

Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:35 AM UTC

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Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by omnicognate » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:36 AM UTC

I've started using lazygit for simple operations on Windows as magit can be slooooow there. I fall back to magit where needed.

Initial impression is that lazygit is much less mature and complete than magit. There's essentially nothing git can do that I can't make it do via magit. Lazygit in comparison is quite limited, often dropping out of the TUI to the command line to perform operations the TUI can't represent or not exposing them at all. It also seems to get confused or crash sometimes, and the UX isn't perfect - eg. it's scarily easy to perform remote-affecting operations like push with a single keypress and no confirmation. Finally, not being embedded in an editor renders lazygit less convenient for things like resolving conflicts (you can set EDITOR of course but then you're switching to another application to handle it).

That said, it is much faster than magit on Windows despite being, like magit, based on the git command line rather than libgit2 (there is an ongoing effort to move magit to the latter). I'm finding it very handy as an SSD to magit's spinning rust.

Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by masklinn » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:37 AM UTC

Beyond being able to open merge tools? No.

Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by jhasse » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:38 AM UTC

With VS Code I can do edits in the diff view. Very very useful and not possible on the command line.

Also better syntax highlighting.

When just viewing or writing commit messages I agree, but as soon as diffs are involved, an IDE can be very helpful.

Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by masklinn » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:39 AM UTC

> Why learn how to use git with Emacs/magit, vim, IntelliJ IDEA, Eclipse, Visual Studio / Code, ... when you can just master the official command line client and forget about the rest?

Because there are plenty of operations which are way less convenient through the CLI e.g. selecting rebase ranges, reviewing branches, interactively staging and unstaging, etc… are infinitely more convenient via magit. And git blame on the CLI is so full of drudgery it’s basically useless while intellij’s lets me drill through history extremely quickly and easily.

The CLI requires juggling terminals and / or keeping a bunch of crap in your head or clipboard which richer clients simply do for you.

Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by tomxor » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:44 AM UTC

> ... when you can just master the official command line client and forget about the rest?

I generally agree, I want the full git interface, which is available everywhere and has no limitations and is not bound to a particular editor.

There is however one area I do find useful to have integrated into an editor, various kinds of code annotations... e.g gitgutter, I use this in vim - these type of features compliment git porcelain rather than replace it. i.e gitgutter is no git diff, but it gives you a good feel for what's been changed before you jump into staging. I've never used magit, I wonder if it has such features? or is it really only a git porcelain shortcut?

Re: A work-in-progress Magit clone for Neovim

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Post by monsieurbanana » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 10:44 AM UTC

You mean the git cli often acclaimed for it's poor ergonomics?

In any case, Magit is great for two things: easy to use and learn, and interactive features. If you made two separate changes in a single file, you might want to have them on different commits. Doing that on the CLI is tedious at best.

Magit makes doing things like that trivial, which results in better commit hygiene.