This just means that if these laptops are going to have Windows 11, they need to have a camera. It's not that the OS will not work without it. It's just MS saying, "You need a camera on your laptop." It's no different than all Macbooks having a camera, except Microsoft is dictating the OEM market needs to adhere to that standard.
Starting in 2023, Windows 11 will require new laptops to have a front webcam
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#12WTAF? Was this supposed to be some kind of security thing? This misreads the room so badly on where people are at in 2021 when it comes to the idea of tech companies and consumer privacy.
This looks like part of their push to passwordless. Decent camera plus TPM means that FaceID style unphishable FIDO2 credentials can become default moving forward.
And how do you handle letting someone else use your machine?
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#13Reporting seems hyperbolic. What happens if your hardware doesn't have a camera? OS won't load or boot?
Presumably it's saying OEMs will not be allowed to sell laptops with copies of windows preinstalled unless the laptop has a camera.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
This looks like part of their push to passwordless. Decent camera plus TPM means that FaceID style unphishable FIDO2 credentials can become default moving forward.
And how do you handle letting someone else use your machine?
That's not really the best argument in favor of passwords.
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#15Oh dear.
On top of that, the new Windows 11 OEM laptops will probably come with Windows 11 Home pre-installed and requires a Microsoft Account, which not only I warned against two years ago [0], but is an instant no deal.
Comes to no surprise as to how Microsoft really wants to collect everything about you. Even if it you get a laptop with a Pro version installed, they will still make it harder for you to avoid a Microsoft account.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
This looks like part of their push to passwordless. Decent camera plus TPM means that FaceID style unphishable FIDO2 credentials can become default moving forward.
And how do you handle letting someone else use your machine?
You install Linux and tell Microsoft to fuck off with their stupid ideas.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good luck with that https://old.reddit.com/r/blackmagicfuckery/comments/kaxn0j/s... Also good luck taping up the microphone.
Even if not, if the camera is required for login/screen unlock, have fun removing and reapplying that tape several dozen times a day.
It's not. You can use a PIN or a password.
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#18WTAF? Was this supposed to be some kind of security thing? This misreads the room so badly on where people are at in 2021 when it comes to the idea of tech companies and consumer privacy.
> This misreads the room so badly on where people are at in 2021 when it comes to the idea of tech companies and consumer privacy. (Some) Tech people, politicians, and politicos, sure. The average person still uses Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp, Twitter, Google services, and/or believes Apple's marketing on respecting user privacy. Also, this is 2 years out. Either there will be major changes between now and then whi…
What part of Apple's privacy policy is unbelievable?
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#19Thank you, Microsoft! Thousands, potentially millions, of users will be motivated to migrate to other OSes, also thanks to Windows 11 insane hardware requirements they will find tons of essentially free hardware that will run their new OS with no issues.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article is light on details, but of course there's always this: > For those concerned with privacy, this means a trip to the office supply store to grab more tape with which to cover up the pesky little lenses.
Good luck with that https://old.reddit.com/r/blackmagicfuckery/comments/kaxn0j/s... Also good luck taping up the microphone.
Isn't the remote made out of IR-transparent plastic? The privacy shields you tape onto a webcam should be IR-opaque. (Or they should be redesigned).
I believe best practice to disable a microphone is superglue over the membrane.