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I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by romanovcode »

codecalec wrote: post #2

This requirement just does not make sense to me. Why would Microsoft even have this requirement? Do they want to force users into an account so it is easier to lead them into Office packages? It can't be for greater data profiles on users since they could do this in other less explicit ways. Microsoft just doesn't have the ecosystem like Apple to make this worthwhile from their point of view or the users.

OneDrive, Edge (if you're into it) and setting sync.

What do you mean it does not makes sense? I am not using MS login myself but saying it doesn't make sense is ridiculous.

It's exactly same as what Apple does.

As for people who say it's required on Windows: It's not. You can create local account during setup, the link is there once you cancel your online login. It's hidden at first, but it's there. You don't even have to disconnect your internet or anything like that. Shit move by MS (dark UI pattern) but it is totally possible.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by yourusername »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #6

This is really a dealbreaker for me, much more than the TPM and recent processor stuff. There must be some workaround :( Edit: Thanks @yourusername, I had missed the part where it's only for the home edition. I'm glad there is still a way.

Win11 pro will not be subject to this requirement.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by romanovcode »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #6

This is really a dealbreaker for me, much more than the TPM and recent processor stuff. There must be some workaround :( Edit: Thanks @yourusername, I had missed the part where it's only for the home edition. I'm glad there is still a way.

It was never a requirement. It uses dark UI patterns (You have to click cancel, then there is a tiny link at the bottom that allows you to create local pc admin account with no MS attachment). Media likes to overblow things.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by philipov »

oolonthegreat wrote: post #3

hopefully shady practices like this will drive more and more people to the light side of free OSs :)

When Pandora's Box was opened, all the evils of the world were released and burst out into the world, leaving only hope. Hope is the evil that stayed behind, close to people's hearts.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by GekkePrutser »

yourusername wrote: post #12
GekkePrutser wrote: post #6

This is really a dealbreaker for me, much more than the TPM and recent processor stuff. There must be some workaround :( Edit: Thanks @yourusername, I had missed the part where it's only for the home edition. I'm glad there is still a way.

Win11 pro will not be subject to this requirement.

Aha I'm glad, thank you for pointing this out! I see now that the article specifically mentions Windows 11 Home only, I should have noticed that.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by amelius »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #7
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #4

I don't really get the selective targeted hate. I don't like this move either but you need an account to use a Mac, iPhone or Android and nobody seems to fuss about it. So why only target Microsoft for doing what their competitors have been doing for a along time and why not protest against Apple and Google for making this practice the norm in the first place through their monopoly in the mobile space?

Nope, you don't need an account to use a Mac. You can set it up just fine without one. My Mac doesn't have any Apple ID. You can use Android without an account too. I have it set up that way on my phone, I use F-Droid and Aurora Store (in anonymous mode). I previously used MicroG which was amazing but I moved back to OxygenOS for other reasons. But even with full Play Services installed you can use them (and push not…

> And yes I protest against these practices.

How?

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by johnchristopher »

codecalec wrote: post #2

This requirement just does not make sense to me. Why would Microsoft even have this requirement? Do they want to force users into an account so it is easier to lead them into Office packages? It can't be for greater data profiles on users since they could do this in other less explicit ways. Microsoft just doesn't have the ecosystem like Apple to make this worthwhile from their point of view or the users.

They used to have things like passport.net way back then, their blogging platform was also tied to a hotmail account, etc.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by GekkePrutser »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #8
GekkePrutser wrote: post #6

This is really a dealbreaker for me, much more than the TPM and recent processor stuff. There must be some workaround :( Edit: Thanks @yourusername, I had missed the part where it's only for the home edition. I'm glad there is still a way.

The workaround is to use Linux :)

I only use my Windows PC for gaming now, where it's kinda unavoidable.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by iwasakabukiman »

romanovcode wrote: post #11
codecalec wrote: post #2

This requirement just does not make sense to me. Why would Microsoft even have this requirement? Do they want to force users into an account so it is easier to lead them into Office packages? It can't be for greater data profiles on users since they could do this in other less explicit ways. Microsoft just doesn't have the ecosystem like Apple to make this worthwhile from their point of view or the users.

OneDrive, Edge (if you're into it) and setting sync. What do you mean it does not makes sense? I am not using MS login myself but saying it doesn't make sense is ridiculous. It's exactly same as what Apple does. As for people who say it's required on Windows: It's not. You can create local account during setup, the link is there once you cancel your online login. It's hidden at first, but it's there. You don't even h…

I can set up and sign in to MacOS without using my Apple ID though.
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