What if you're a salaried contractor? Meaning you work at a contracting firm as a salaried employee, but go to clients?
Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?
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#12Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.
Haha: "Housing is 581% more expensive in San Francisco."
And I live in the Northeast!
I mean, I guess they would need to pay me a lot more, because I literally could not spend 6x my current rent, because that would be all of my income.
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#13As others have pointed at, location is a big factor here. The issue I have is that it is US-centric. Has there been a poll or is there any data regarding the HN demographics (including region)?
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#14Although I'm just a student doing programming work for a summer job, I can't complain with the pay! (Less then 60K)
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure that is accurate. To my surprise...my NYC salary of $176,000 adjusted to San Francisco should be $217,151 Is SF really more expensive then NYC?
I'm not sure - never lived in either place. I'm not particularly tied to that calculator, it just came up first in a Google search. I do, however, think it's important to remove the location parameter from the salary function as best as we can. Otherwise the distribution of results is meaningless.
In my personal experience, there's a growing trend of developers working remotely from wherever they want. As that trend becomes more mainstream, I would expect regional differences in developers' salaries to shrink.
So I don't think the poll is meaningless without geography.
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#16If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two.
As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.
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#17Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.
I'm not sure that is accurate. To my surprise...my NYC salary of $176,000 adjusted to San Francisco should be $217,151 Is SF really more expensive then NYC?
From the breakdown provided by the calculator, it looks like the big differentiator is housing costs (369 vs 250). My guess would be that they are using housing data for places like Queens/Brooklyn, where housing can be considerably cheaper than Manhattan, but are not considering places like South San Francisco, Colma, etc. when calculating the housing prices for San Francisco.
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#18Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.
Just did a comparison between East Lansing and San Francisco on that site. Salary went up 2.25 times. SF cost of living is 1.5 times and rent is 6.6 times as expensive. Holy cow!
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#19Again, this doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense without location data. I'm voting with my salary adjusted to San Francisco levels by using the following adjustment tool: http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ I'd recommend that people do the same so we can remove a substantial source of noise from this poll and actually get a meaningful distribution.
Haha: "Housing is 581% more expensive in San Francisco." And I live in the Northeast! I mean, I guess they would need to pay me a lot more, because I literally could not spend 6x my current rent, because that would be all of my income.
I think it means you would have 6 times less housing for what you're paying now (although that could also be non-sensical).
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#20Here in Brazil, I get paid approximately 11k brazillian reais.. Translating to U.S. dollars that would be 7k. These numbers are really impressive to me.