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Apple’s new keyboard feature in iOS 15 is insult to Cantonese speaking community

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Re: Apple’s new keyboard feature in iOS 15 is insult to Cantonese speaking community

#13
New rule, we ban the concepts of being "insulted" and "outraged" and we focus on constructive discussion from now on as a species.

As for Apple, their localization is quite half-hearted for about half the world, so that's just how they roll, unfortunately.

Re: Apple’s new keyboard feature in iOS 15 is insult to Cantonese speaking community

#14
> Why would I type my native language with a foreign language keyboard? Would you type Russian with an American keyboard?

I don’t know the intricacies of the Chinese languages but typing foreign languages with English keyboard is pretty common worldwide I guess? It certainly is for Indian languages at least.

Re: Apple’s new keyboard feature in iOS 15 is insult to Cantonese speaking community

#16
> Why would I type my native language with a foreign language keyboard? Would you type Russian with an American keyboard?

Yes, I would, and I have been doing this all my life when no Russian layout is available. This is called transliteration, and I would argue most Russian speaking tech users used it at least once in their life.

Re: Apple’s new keyboard feature in iOS 15 is insult to Cantonese speaking community

#17
Apple has a ton of internationalisation bugs. I am a VoiceOver user, so some of the things I "see" might not be obvious to other users. When I started with iOS 2012, umlauts in PDF documents were not pronounced correctly. This basically made PDF reading unusable for documents in my native language, because umlauts are quite prominent in german. When I entered my date of birth into the contact app, I immediately found out someone at Apple had placed an exception for "1979" into the pronounciation database. All other 4 digit numbers are spoken correctly in German, except for 1979 and 1234. These are being spoken in english, 1979 as "Nineteenseventynine" and 1234 as "one two three four". Thats not the only weird exception. I could go on and write a full list. And all of the bugs (except for the umlauts in PDF thing) have never been fixed since I first noticed them. Some do exist since 9 years!

Re: Apple’s new keyboard feature in iOS 15 is insult to Cantonese speaking community

#18

Yeah, Apple is the worst at supporting things outside of California and especially localization. The last time Apple added support for a new language was iOS 4 and brought the number of supported languages to about 30. In the meantime Android does more than 180, with all sort of region specific dialects. Even Windows Phone supported 50 while it was around.

I would say Microsoft is worst. It doesn’t support Zhuyin on screen keyboard. So my wife can’t type Chinese when she uses a laptop without a Zhuyin keyboard.

Edit: would love to know why I’m downvoted.

Re: Apple’s new keyboard feature in iOS 15 is insult to Cantonese speaking community

#19
post #8

This might sound super inflammatory but I honestly believe that Apple scores more social leverage by supporting unused and endangered languages than mainstream Asian languages

Hopefully people speaking up will change that equation so that everyone is served.
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