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Goodbye Freenode

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Re: Goodbye Freenode

#12
I mean, I guess if new Freenode's mission to "preserve IRC" includes preserving drama, flamewars, channel takeovers, and mass bans, then mission accomplished!

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#13
post #7

At this point, it has been exceedingly clear that almost every project has jumped ship[0][1]. For weeks the leave list has grown to over 700 while the stay list is at 3. [0] https://github.com/siraben/freenode-exodus [1] https://isfreenodedeadyet.com/

> or weeks the leave list has grown to over 700 while the stay list is at 3.

It's more like 1.5 [0]. #techrights stayed and #forth has a bridged setup. The third channel listed is #freenode.

[0] https://github.com/siraben/freenode-exodus#projects-and-chan...

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#15
While I agree that Libera is New Freenode and Old Freenode is rapidly dying a death, this whole episode has soured me mightily against Freenode as a whole. This should never have happened in the first place and the blame for it lies squarely at the OldFreenode/Libera admin's feet, not whichever outside actor took advantage of it. The admins are an "old boys network" - not chosen by the community, or elected, but simply in-group appointment - and while Rasengan is certainly a loose cannon, I have seen enough chatlogs to note that "the admins" are not innocent of power-tripping and favoritism either.

If I were starting an IRC channel for a free software project now, I would put it on OFTC, which has a real governance model with elections and - mysteriously - also manages to be drama-free.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#17
post #13
post #7

At this point, it has been exceedingly clear that almost every project has jumped ship[0][1]. For weeks the leave list has grown to over 700 while the stay list is at 3. [0] https://github.com/siraben/freenode-exodus [1] https://isfreenodedeadyet.com/

> or weeks the leave list has grown to over 700 while the stay list is at 3. It's more like 1.5 [0]. #techrights stayed and #forth has a bridged setup. The third channel listed is #freenode. [0] https://github.com/siraben/freenode-exodus#projects-and-chan...

Yes :), part of the joke is that even when you try to look for channels staying (and I've asked dozens of people at this point), they're obviously staying (tied to freenode), compromising (bridging) or very extreme (#techrights is not the most pleasant of places, let's put it like that).

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#19
post #14

if you k-line nedbat, of all people, you’re obviously deranged. fuckin’ bye.

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