And your schedule sounds like too much coding and not enough sleep. Why don't you try getting 10 hours of sleep for a few weeks and see if that helps your focus at all. And longer breaks between coding sessions.
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#12I've got a better idea. You give me the $4k and I'll fly to San Diego and beat you with a stick any time you stop working. Seriously though, this is a really weird plan. It's a huge amount of money to spend for something that almost certainly won't have the effect you want. Unless you want burnout and a serious case of "maybe we should have budgeted more time to take a look around Hong Kong, which is actually pretty…
Oh snap. Seriously Jonathan, what you have here is a mixture of impatience and imperfect self-discipline, probably because you and your partner have not yet hit on an idea that truly excites you, to the point where social or practical considerations are simply less interesting.
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#13Why Hong Kong? Wouldn't Tahoe or Big Sur or Bodega Bay suffice? And your schedule sounds like too much coding and not enough sleep. Why don't you try getting 10 hours of sleep for a few weeks and see if that helps your focus at all. And longer breaks between coding sessions.
I get plenty of sleep as I do now (6 hours) and sleeping in past that normally makes me feel groggy and tired. I have a very healthy schedule, with lots of small but good breaks in between my coding sessions.
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#14It never seems to work out for us, since we’ll be work hard for 8 hours and then start wondering what our friends are up to, or start surfing the net for no apparent reason. 8 hours of productivity in a day sounds like a healthy work-life balance to me. You're just frustrated because you're not getting rich yet. I'm starting to think I should open 'code jail' where programmers will pay me for the privilege of being d…
I'm really not frustrated despite what people think. I'm just tired of the 9-5 work 8 hour schedule that I've been doing and wanting to change exactly that. Instead, view my situation as someone who;s so interested in working on their startup that they want to quit their 9-5 job. That's exactly like me, except that I want to be able to spend more time on the startup which means quitting the life/drama/responsbilities/work/ I have here for 3 weeks.
haha I'm up by 6AM already, workout, make myself a fantastic breakfast, and begin coding with breaks in between. I'm looking to add more time to my coding schedule, not because I'm frustrated or stressed or even inefficient.
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#15A couple of years ago I decided to do something similar. I rented a cabin at a state park a few hours from my house. It cost me about $200 for the week. I had a kitchen and TV, but no cell service or internet. I got a ton done.
So, I understand the idea behind what you are doing, but I don't understand Hong Kong at all. Maybe try it for a week somewhere close (but remote) and see if it works for the two of you as a team.
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#16I imagine these responses aren't what you were expecting. The general consensus seems to be that this is a misguided idea. Maybe you are romanticizing it a bit. A couple of years ago I decided to do something similar. I rented a cabin at a state park a few hours from my house. It cost me about $200 for the week. I had a kitchen and TV, but no cell service or internet. I got a ton done. So, I understand the idea behin…
I'm doing precisely what you did with the cabin, except I need to be out of the country to avoid calls from my clients even when they know I'm on vacation. The only calls I plan are taking are from Hong Kong itself in case an emergency happens (A recent relative had a stroke and is in a Hong Kong hospital).
Going to Hong Kong enables me to take trips to China, which is a lot of fun and doesn't require staying longer than a day to enjoy.
I'm also choosing Hong Kong because I can borrow the vacant house for free (courtesy of my parents). Going to Canada is around 1k round trip for me, whereas Hong Kong is 1.1k round trip. I'd rather go to Hong Kong in terms of that preference. The remaining $900 involves around $200-300 for china (paying the visa to visit there, transportation, etc) and the rest is for food.
I've considered going somewhere closer for a week, but I'll definitely burn out if I don't even have anything like China to look forward to. 2 weeks of coding non stop is fine but not 3 weeks( I've done 2 and barely managed to keep motivated towards the end).
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Oh snap. Seriously Jonathan, what you have here is a mixture of impatience and imperfect self-discipline, probably because you and your partner have not yet hit on an idea that truly excites you, to the point where social or practical considerations are simply less interesting.
I'm not sure why I'm being classified as impatient or lacking in self-discipline. I'm 23, but I've been working to support myself since 18. I don't rely on other people, especially my parents who work hard enough as it is, for money. I don't drink, smoke, or play games, and I've worked my way up as a sysadmin- enough to have savings to be unemployed for the next few years. As replied to the other posts, it's not so m…
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#19Figure out how to build your startup while maintaining a normal lifestyle. Working 15 hours a day isn't sustainable, nor is it desirable.
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#20I've done similar amounts of work before, and I can tell you from a year-long experience going to comp sci school 8-10 hours a day (usually taking extra classes), working another 6-8 hours on top of that to pay the bills, sleeping 4-6 hours, and using whatever scraps of time left over on homework and a significant other that this is going to leave you worse off than that and it may drive you and your cofounder apart. What did I get out of that? A year that I don't remember and a year I never want to repeat again.
I would take 8-10 hours/day of intense, highly focused work on something I love over 15+ hours/day of work on something that doesn't seem to be really, really fascinating/engaging/interesting to you. All that I see you really being passionate about from your question is working a ton of hours each day to try to get something that you may not 100% enjoy out the door so you can focus on the next thing.