So the big question is if would have been better to strike fast, silently gain more intel och strike in some kind of statistical analysis maner to not blow their cover á la Alan Turing and the enigma
Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
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Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
#12not just Australia, it's world wide and likely led by the FBI (but possibly data being collected outside the US to avoid the need of having actual warrants) The following thread looks at some of the opened court documents today: https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/1402100449013125123 (and points out that the Trump organisation might be in trouble ....)
Being outside the US doesn't avoid the need for actual warrants. That thread mentions several, both in the US and out of it.
Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
#13Looks like the app’s domain was also seized. https://www.anom.io/
It’s bizarre, because news reports state that the entire app and monitoring system was created by the FBI and Australian Federal Police.
If it’s their system, why would they need to seize its domain?
Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
#14The lesson here is complete trust in modern computing platforms is misplaced and impossible. Your hardware has backdoors, so does your OS, and encryption clients. In addition, popular apps, especially in the US, can always be commandeered by 3-letter agencies. You're only anonymous as long as you're not actively targetted, despite using "secure" apps and stuff like Tor, which media makes it seem are unbreakable.
Not quite. They were using an app developed by the police as a honeypot. Someone else had even discovered this and blogged about it[0]. If they had used email and PGP they likely wouldn't have been caught in this way. 3-letter agencies are not going to use their trump card of backdoored OS or hardware to catch drug runners.
[0]https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PwQXt6...
Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
#15So the big question is if would have been better to strike fast, silently gain more intel och strike in some kind of statistical analysis maner to not blow their cover á la Alan Turing and the enigma
It’s been running for three years. I suspect something changed recently (perhaps some imminent threat) that meant they needed to act now.
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#16Does anyone find it funny that each criminal group could have been better off relying on a "kid who knows computers" level of expertise and bog standard devices running open source software which at least wouldn't be trivially systematically turned against them all at once quite so easily.
I wonder about this too. What sort of people do international criminal organisations hire to manage their info-sec? A criminal that became a computer expert or a computer expert that became a criminal?
Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
#17Does anyone find it funny that each criminal group could have been better off relying on a "kid who knows computers" level of expertise and bog standard devices running open source software which at least wouldn't be trivially systematically turned against them all at once quite so easily.
I wonder about this too. What sort of people do international criminal organisations hire to manage their info-sec? A criminal that became a computer expert or a computer expert that became a criminal?
Codefellas https://www.wired.com/2003/12/mafia/
Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
#18Looks like the app’s domain was also seized. https://www.anom.io/
Funny how that form is essentially asking users to dox themselves. I wonder how many will take the bait.
My mother-in-law better watch out
Overall, a very clean website source. No trackers in the source at all.
Countries list is interesting. Lists Puerto Rico, American Samoa and Virgin Islands (US). Didn't know PR seceded, thank you FBI for confirming. Lists various French territories. Missing South Sudan. Missing Kosovo. Includes Taiwan. Includes Palestine.
Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
#19Looks like the app’s domain was also seized. https://www.anom.io/
It’s bizarre, because news reports state that the entire app and monitoring system was created by the FBI and Australian Federal Police. If it’s their system, why would they need to seize its domain?
The whois shows no updates for 11months:
Updated Date: 2020-07-07T06:01:35.21Z
Re: Australian Federal Police and FBI nab underworld figures using encrypted app
#20Looks like the app’s domain was also seized. https://www.anom.io/
Can someone explain what flag in the top left corner is? There’s probably another non-country flag I missed in there too.
