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Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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It's also meant to protect Copenhagen against sea surges and rising water levels.

Could be done quicker and cheaper with other means than an artificial urbanised island.

Sure but you wouldn’t get dual use out of it, need housing need a storm break why not combine them?

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The city of Copenhagen has a more comprehensive breakdown of the project.[1] I think it's interesting that they intend to build residential property to accommodate 35,000. The area around that island is very...heavy industry related. It's also very very windy over there, but then again so is Denmark in general. 1. https://www.kk.dk/lynetteholm

The time and money spent per resident is ludicrous. But I guess it is a politically much easier way to get housing build, than finding/making space elsewhere in the city for development.

$100 / square foot sounds like a reasonable price for urban land close to the center of a major city. All good land is already in use, the remaining unbuilt areas are expensive to build or too far away, and new construction in existing parts of a city is a massive struggle that requires a lot of time and effort.

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It's not unusual to see such timeframes in the context of nuclear decommissioning. For example: "At around 2116, care and maintenance will end and any remaining buildings will be removed and the site returned as close as possible to its original state."[0] Also, depending on what you mean by "some definite plan", and how young you are, your pension plan may include an estimated retirement date later than 2070. [0] ht…

I think the retirement thing is a stretch. A 16 year old might see a retirement age of 2070 using a retirement age of 65.

Someone born in the late 1990s might expect to retire around 2070. Given the population structure in wealthy countries, early retirement at 65 is no longer feasible for most people in the younger generations.

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It's not unusual to see such timeframes in the context of nuclear decommissioning. For example: "At around 2116, care and maintenance will end and any remaining buildings will be removed and the site returned as close as possible to its original state."[0] Also, depending on what you mean by "some definite plan", and how young you are, your pension plan may include an estimated retirement date later than 2070. [0] ht…

I think the retirement thing is a stretch. A 16 year old might see a retirement age of 2070 using a retirement age of 65.

The options for retirement funds in my 401(k) include "LifePath Index 2065 Account A", but that's as far as it goes for now.

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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This is some remarkably long-term planning: "If construction goes ahead as planned, the majority of the foundations for the island off Denmark's capital should be in place by 2035, with an aim to fully complete the project by 2070." I can't recall ever seeing the year 2070 or later in print, in the context of some definite project or plan. Are there other examples?

Closest I can think of is the Chuo Maglev in Japan, approved in 2011 with a completion target of 2045. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Shinkansen

You could also add Sagrada Familia in Barcelona to the list, construction began in 1882 and might be done by 2032.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Fam%C3%ADlia

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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This is some remarkably long-term planning: "If construction goes ahead as planned, the majority of the foundations for the island off Denmark's capital should be in place by 2035, with an aim to fully complete the project by 2070." I can't recall ever seeing the year 2070 or later in print, in the context of some definite project or plan. Are there other examples?

The Dutch fairly routinely reclaimed land that could only be built on decades later (once it dried out sufficiently to be stable enough to build on).

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Closest I can think of is the Chuo Maglev in Japan, approved in 2011 with a completion target of 2045. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Shinkansen

You could also add Sagrada Familia in Barcelona to the list, construction began in 1882 and might be done by 2032. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Fam%C3%ADlia

That wasn't the original plan though.

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My knee jerk reaction to this was “Why build an island when the glaciers are melting and the global sea level is rising?” but then I looked into it and by 2100 the average rise will be about 0.3m. Just dredge up more mud and you should be good!

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

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My knee jerk reaction to this was “Why build an island when the glaciers are melting and the global sea level is rising?” but then I looked into it and by 2100 the average rise will be about 0.3m. Just dredge up more mud and you should be good! https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

Global sea level rise also doesn't affect all places equally. Northern Europe is expected to be below average for sea level rise. https://www.climatecentral.org/news/ice-melt-means-uneven-se...

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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My knee jerk reaction to this was “Why build an island when the glaciers are melting and the global sea level is rising?” but then I looked into it and by 2100 the average rise will be about 0.3m. Just dredge up more mud and you should be good! https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

It depends very much on what happens with Antarctic and (to a lesser extent) Greenland ice sheets.
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