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The M.T.A. Is Breached by Hackers as Cyberattacks Surge

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Perhaps a pentester or security person can help answer this. Could a list of minimum network safety standards be made that: a) would help the ransomware & hacking crisis, and, b) is practically enforcable at scale?

there are standards and operating procedures that can be used. it’s not that hard. it comes down to training and cost cutting. If the penalty for failing miserably is 0 you won’t see any change. I would hold the companies responsible for things like this liable to the point they would be put out of business after an event like this. If the cost of being sloppy is that you no longer have a business people will start p…

> there are standards and operating procedures that can be used

99% of these standards are completely useless and exist only to reduce legal liability. The other 1% are only incidentally slightly useful.

You will never ever create a secure company by following some stupid checklist, unless the checklist is so extreme as to be useless to most orgs. “Step 1: only run OpenBSD…”

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Perhaps a pentester or security person can help answer this. Could a list of minimum network safety standards be made that: a) would help the ransomware & hacking crisis, and, b) is practically enforcable at scale?

> To gain access to the M.T.A. and other systems, the hackers took advantage of vulnerabilities in Pulse Connect Secure, a widely used connectivity tool that offers workers remote access to their employers’ networks. [...] The hackers took advantage of a so-called “zero day,” or a previously unknown coding flaw in software for which a patch does not exist.

The Pulse VPN has a history of security issues (see e.g. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/01/unpat...) - so much so that the second and third Google autocomplete results are "pulse vpn vulnerability" and "pulse vpn hack". One practically enforceable at scale rule is to pay attention to whether your vendors have a bad security track record and also be meaningfully prepared to switch (switching VPNs is no fun, but it's doable).

Another one is to ask your vendors what they're doing about their security track record and whether they are taking systematic measures to make zero days less frequent and not just fixing individual bugs. "Stop using memory-unsafe languages" is one of my favorite answers to that, but there are a lot of others: "use sanitizers," "test your code with fuzzers," "use open-source components for the privileged portions," "get frequent third-party audits," etc. are all potential answers too. Some work better than others; any of them is better than not having an answer.

> “The M.T.A.’s existing multilayered security systems worked as designed, preventing spread of the attack,” said Rafail Portnoy, the M.T.A.’s chief technology officer. [...] there was “no employee or customer information breached, no data loss and no changes to our vital systems.”

The other really good answer here is to not have an all-or-nothing architecture for your network, and it sounds like the MTA is doing that already. Don't wire the train-switching network to the email-checking network just because you can. This is much harder to practically enforce at scale in an environment that wasn't designed for it, but it's a great rule to enforce in new systems. Any time you build something that would be worse to get taken over by hackers/ransomware/whatever than the rest of your company's computerized systems, build it separately and make limited interfaces for people to interact with it.

The move to put everything in the cloud really ought to make this easier: you can make a new cloud account for new systems and use bastion hosts etc. for developer access to them, instead of throwing it in your existing account.

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Perhaps a pentester or security person can help answer this. Could a list of minimum network safety standards be made that: a) would help the ransomware & hacking crisis, and, b) is practically enforcable at scale?

> Perhaps a pentester or security person can help answer this Not one of those but since they are [apparently] inadequate anyway... I read an analogy that pinning this on "cyber security" is like accusing a mugging victim of having a lack of personal security guards. That's just not how civil society works. Minimum safety standards: laws and ability to enforce them. This is a short-term win for the bad actors. Just w…

> I read an analogy that pinning this on "cyber security" is like accusing a mugging victim of having a lack of personal security guards. That's just not how civil society works

Civil society does punish businesses when bad things happen due to negligence. Especially when the result of the negligence negatively effects someone else.

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Perhaps a pentester or security person can help answer this. Could a list of minimum network safety standards be made that: a) would help the ransomware & hacking crisis, and, b) is practically enforcable at scale?

You need a "mature" security organization that can stick it's tentacles into everything and still be effective or embed security people directly on teams to gate changes like a CI tool does. A security team that operates at a distance is totally ineffective.

I've worked a bunch of places that have passed various audits and certifications, you know, PCI, SOC, and unfortunately the audits of infrastructure isn't as deep as the average Joe would expect. They place heavier weight on processes over technical safeguards. It's like what they say about the CISSP exam, a mile wide and an inch deep.

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Just curious if "ties to China" means "an IP address that may or may not be allocated to Chinese geography, and may or may not simply be a Tor exit node or a VPN service."

People are far too trusting of these claims of where these attacks originated. Very few people in the world, including journalists, know how IP networks work.

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Perhaps a pentester or security person can help answer this. Could a list of minimum network safety standards be made that: a) would help the ransomware & hacking crisis, and, b) is practically enforcable at scale?

If the world had a small fraction of the will necessary to counterattack, seize assets, and capture perps, we could shut many of these clowns down quickly. The DarkSide group is an example of a swift law enforcement action, only days after the Colonial hack. Maybe that only happens if you threaten oil profits but we could pretend.

https://threatpost.com/darksides-servers-shutdown/166187/

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Perhaps a pentester or security person can help answer this. Could a list of minimum network safety standards be made that: a) would help the ransomware & hacking crisis, and, b) is practically enforcable at scale?

There are none. Compliance is bargaining with a universe that doesn't care.

Hold product managers and non-tech execs accountable for security breaches. Stop treating IT/ops like the suckers. Since that's never going to happen, buy some Monero to increase your bargaining leverage on the ransom price.

The bar is not very high, it's bike theft economics. Your stuff only needs to be less vulnerable than the next guys, unless you are a political target. If you are a political target, please forget my name.

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