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Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

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post #10

The one problem I have with G+ is that sometimes there is gold in the junkstream. Sometimes someone does post something interesting and they would not normally share it with me. How can we balance over-granulated sharing with under-granulated sharing?

How is this different than anywhere else, including Facebook and twitter? It's a perennial problem.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#12
Why is Twitter wounded? Twitter is essentially friction free in use, and has a lot of momentum as a single-purpose destination.

On the other hand, Facebook has felt increasingly intrusive, facial recognition etc., and I already gave up on it, even before I knew G+ was coming out.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#13
Signing up for anything google feels more like a commitment compared to creating a twitter account. Google wants to integrate more and more of your data into their system, linking it with your other google accounts whether you like it or not. G+ seems, like FB, more like an experience than a simple service. Not that it cant provide the same function as twitter, but providing only that function is still valuable, I think.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#14
Yes it can do what Twitter does plus all the other stuff but most Twitter users don't want that other stuff, they actively dislike it. They like Twitter because it's simple, that's one of it's killer features.

Google+ is Twitter on steriods isn't a sales pitch for people who value simplicity.

The article mentions this but then goes on to completely ignore it in it's analysis but for me it's critical to understanding why people like Twitter in the first place.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#15
The Google+ circles concept is powerful and easy to use. It represents the defining, foundational difference between Google´s and Facebook´s vision for social networking. If this new model takes off with users, then Facebook will find itself in the uncomfortable position of having to replicate these features within its own platform. Unfortunately for Facebook, moving to this new paradigm will not be possible overnight. We are talking about a major architectural overhaul. In the meantime, Google will have a chance to attract significant numbers of users and influence.

There's a massive assumption here that G+ is blindsiding Facebook. Obviously there is no limit to human stupidity, however I'd personally be surprised if adding a circles-like feature to Facebook is an architectural nightmare, or that they haven't thought about it.

The idea that there are meetings at FB where people are saying "F___, we're screwed" is implausible. This has been discussed for years, and I'd bet actual money that FB engineers and/or product managers periodically propose adding this feature and FB decides that the time is not yet ripe. If and when G+ demonstrates that people really, really want this functionality, I expect Facebook will roll it out smoothly.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#16
post #10

The one problem I have with G+ is that sometimes there is gold in the junkstream. Sometimes someone does post something interesting and they would not normally share it with me. How can we balance over-granulated sharing with under-granulated sharing?

How is this different than anywhere else, including Facebook and twitter? It's a perennial problem.

Those two solve it by encouraging everyone to contribute to the public stream increasing the chance that you will find your gold by looking in the stream. G+ does exactly the opposite and encourages you to not contribute to the public stream.

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#17
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't really believe that Google isn't going to throw in ads once it opens up wide?

Yeah, I'm sure the ads will be similar to Facebooks soon. But possibly less annoying/more personalized. I think this is the real concern for Twitter. G+ can kind of do what Twitter does, and G+ is much easier to monetize.

Facebook's ads aren't personalized enough?! I post that a had a good BM this morning and there's an ad for Charmin and Welch's prune juice on the thread! How much more personalized do you want?

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#19
This headline is sensationalistic beyond the pale of respectable journalism, and certainly beyond that of HN. The article does nothing to justify the title. Speculating ways in which Twitter might eventually lose to a new competitor does not license you say they've already been "mortally wounded".

To the extent that anyone reading this has the authority to change headlines (I only know for sure that pg does), could you please modify it to something reasonable? Thanks.

For others, please note that improving headlines is not only permitted, but very much precedented and generally encouraged. Bad headlines let shitty articles get upvoted, and degrade the overall quality of HN. (With some sources, namely Popular Science, I'd even humbly suggest changing the headlines be mandatory.)

Re: Google+ is Awesome. Facebook Maimed, Twitter Mortally Wounded?

#20

The Google+ circles concept is powerful and easy to use. It represents the defining, foundational difference between Google´s and Facebook´s vision for social networking. If this new model takes off with users, then Facebook will find itself in the uncomfortable position of having to replicate these features within its own platform. Unfortunately for Facebook, moving to this new paradigm will not be possible overnigh…

Facebook has "circles" but they are called "groups."

I have sources that say, unofficially that:

1) They were not blindsided at all. They worked hard to compete on major features before g+ ever came out.

2) "Groups" has more or less similar functionality, and the feature is known to have a poor UI right now. The point though is that FB thought about this and even though they aren't up to the same polish with that feature, the feature exists, no architectural changes necessary. Just UI polish.

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