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I don't understand what's supposed to be political here. We're not getting off Freenode because we don't like Andrew Lee's politics , we do because we have no faith at all in his skill as a network operator.
Some people who have an agenda against the "left" feel like everything is a witchhunt nowadays.
I don't get the general "we are not political" idea. Everything is political. The conscious decision to stay put is as political as everything else. What they want to say is: "We don't want to get involved in this and save our face while doing so"
I wouldn't go that far. Irssi could have not taken a political stance, by ignoring what happened and not committing last week's change. But now that that's done, reverting it was political too. You can avoid a political issue, but once you ring the bell, you can't un-ring it.
Yikes. That commit isn't "not [taking] a political stance"; it's taking the political stance of supporting Andrew Lee's hostile takeover.
I don't get the general "we are not political" idea. Everything is political. The conscious decision to stay put is as political as everything else. What they want to say is: "We don't want to get involved in this and save our face while doing so"
> Everything is political. I wouldn't go that far. Irssi could have not taken a political stance, by ignoring what happened and not committing last week's change. But now that that's done, reverting it was political too. You can avoid a political issue, but once you ring the bell, you can't un-ring it.
anyone that thinks most decisions are apolitical are living in a vacuum tube or are just too privileged to give a shit. too many ppl in tech dont want to put themselves in another’s shoes
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Everything is political. I wouldn't go that far. Irssi could have not taken a political stance, by ignoring what happened and not committing last week's change. But now that that's done, reverting it was political too. You can avoid a political issue, but once you ring the bell, you can't un-ring it.
nah m8. everything is political. they’re basically saying they’re oke with the destruction of a community and the hostile intentions against FOSS because of one man’s megalomaniacal psyche. anyone that thinks most decisions are apolitical are living in a vacuum tube or are just too privileged to give a shit. too many ppl in tech dont want to put themselves in another’s shoes
I agree that the revert we're discussing did this and so was political. I'm saying that in the hypothetical world where this commit didn't exist but neither did last week's that it reverted, there irssi truly would be apolitical still.
I don't understand what's supposed to be political here. We're not getting off Freenode because we don't like Andrew Lee's politics , we do because we have no faith at all in his skill as a network operator.
Some people who have an agenda against the "left" feel like everything is a witchhunt nowadays.
Frankly, Lee wishes this was a right vs left thing.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
nah m8. everything is political. they’re basically saying they’re oke with the destruction of a community and the hostile intentions against FOSS because of one man’s megalomaniacal psyche. anyone that thinks most decisions are apolitical are living in a vacuum tube or are just too privileged to give a shit. too many ppl in tech dont want to put themselves in another’s shoes
> they’re basically saying they’re oke with the destruction of a community and the hostile intentions against FOSS because of one man’s megalomaniacal psyche. I agree that the revert we're discussing did this and so was political. I'm saying that in the hypothetical world where this commit didn't exist but neither did last week's that it reverted, there irssi truly would be apolitical still.
I think it's a little ironic that someone who hasn't seemed to have committed to the codebase of irssi for years has decided to come in and put their foot down in such an aggressive way. Funny, I feel like I JUST saw something like this happen somewhere else...
I think it's a little ironic that someone who hasn't seemed to have committed to the codebase of irssi for years has decided to come in and put their foot down in such an aggressive way. Funny, I feel like I JUST saw something like this happen somewhere else...