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Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most of the US, employment is "at will" [sic], meaning your employment can be terminated any time for any, or no cause.

Also, emoployees can leave company any time. And they leave companies on short notices! Cuts both ways!

But you may not get good refs (necessary for future employment) if you try to play by the same rules as the employer and give no notice.

Even if the mandatory notice period is equal, the power balance isn't.

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#12
The two times I started a new job it seems the position I was interviewed for, and the team I ended up joining was somewhat different... Because of shifting priorities, etc. such is life in a living organization.

But neither employer rescinded their offer. Retracting a job offer is not normal.

Stories like this will discourage people from joining Tesla. And in reality Tesla could easily find a position for an extra engineer.

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This is an interesting comment on the Linkedin page: In my experience, This is actually not that surprising, don’t find yourself cornered by such situations, always get offers more than one and then keep them on their edge until you have joined. Such is corporate life.

Yeah, that doesn’t match my expectation at all. Does that commenter think that you should always have multiple job offers before giving notice to your current job?

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#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most of the US, employment is "at will" [sic], meaning your employment can be terminated any time for any, or no cause.

Also, emoployees can leave company any time. And they leave companies on short notices! Cuts both ways!

Are there actually countries where employees can't quit if they want to?

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I am unfamiliar with the US employment law, but isn't the job offer a contract? Therefore I am assuming you would still be compensated, and its simply a matter of finding your next gig? Or is this as simple as the offer could be modified and therefore your shafted?

Sometimes you can claim promissory estoppel but decades of anti-labor laws usually mean you're out of luck.

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#16

If he were let go on first day of new job, would he be happy? It is an at will employment, got to just accept it and move on. Tesla doesn't care why you took up the job. May be you wanted to follow your passion or may be you wanted to feed your family. Musk doesn't care. That is the beauty of capitalism. Without everybody else worrying about why you took up a job, we have built an economic system that doesn't let any…

> an economic system that doesn't let anyone starve

I don't think this is accurate.

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post #2

I am unfamiliar with the US employment law, but isn't the job offer a contract? Therefore I am assuming you would still be compensated, and its simply a matter of finding your next gig? Or is this as simple as the offer could be modified and therefore your shafted?

Even in Denmark with lots of employee protections... The first 3 weeks is usually a trial phase where you can be fired with short notice.

Though people rarely are...

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#18
This happened to me in college in the fall of 2008. I accepted a software development position with a local consulting firm and quit my on-campus job, only to find out that my new position no longer existed a few days later.

I ended up finding another job with a competitor before my two weeks ran out, but it was a worrisome time.

Later I reviewed a spec from a new customer's previous consulting firm, with whom they had just parted ways due to no progress on the application. That previous firm was the one that had hired-me-but-not-really. It was a brief moment of vindication.

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If he were let go on first day of new job, would he be happy? It is an at will employment, got to just accept it and move on. Tesla doesn't care why you took up the job. May be you wanted to follow your passion or may be you wanted to feed your family. Musk doesn't care. That is the beauty of capitalism. Without everybody else worrying about why you took up a job, we have built an economic system that doesn't let any…

> an economic system that doesn't let anyone starve I don't think this is accurate.

It's not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_in_the_United_States

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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If he were let go on first day of new job, would he be happy? It is an at will employment, got to just accept it and move on. Tesla doesn't care why you took up the job. May be you wanted to follow your passion or may be you wanted to feed your family. Musk doesn't care. That is the beauty of capitalism. Without everybody else worrying about why you took up a job, we have built an economic system that doesn't let any…

Tesla is allowed to screw him like this, but it is appropriate that he makes that fact known in a public forum and causes commensurate reputational damage to Tesla.
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