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U.S. Backs 15% Global Minimum Tax to Curb Profit Shifting Overseas

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Re: U.S. Backs 15% Global Minimum Tax to Curb Profit Shifting Overseas

#11

Does humanity really want an authority powerful enough to claim dominion over the entire planet?

This isn't a great article. It's more about the politics than the actual proposal.

Bloomberg has a better write up: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-08/plans-for...

To answer your question, this wouldn't create a new organization to collect a global tax. Instead it would give the IRS the authority to tax American companies (say, Google) an additional amount on their overseas earnings. So, if they paid 13% in Irish tax, but the American tax rate is %21, the IRS could charge them the gap (an additional 8%). This would be true in all countries that sign the agreement.

Obviously tax havens would still exist, but they'd be harder for big multinationals (like American tech giants) to abuse.

Re: U.S. Backs 15% Global Minimum Tax to Curb Profit Shifting Overseas

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Why would smaller countries who are looking for a competitive edge to attract business ever agree to this? It seems like this is really just in the interest of the US and other big incumbents that rely on large tax revenue already. But even within that group, enforcing such a minimum really has the effect of cementing the incumbents' hold on economic power. So why would any nations other than the US agree to this, when others stand to benefit by gaining economically at the cost of the US? Personally I also find the notion of a global order that prevents flight (of companies, capital, etc.) to be a bit dystopian. I don't want any power (a nation, or a coalition of nations) to have that kind of influence or authority, and this proposal doesn't give me good vibes.

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#13
Thank God the US is taking charge of the GLOBAL finances. What could go wrong!?

This is ladder pulling. Who needs smaller countries competing on fiscal rates when all tech should be registered in Dellaware?

Note how it's a small 15% to start with. If this goes through and all the treaties are in place moving it to 25% should be much easier.

Maybe the US should investigate all the creative ways US corporations pay so little tax anywhere. It's a problem caused by US and US corporation and now they come to provide a solution.

Re: U.S. Backs 15% Global Minimum Tax to Curb Profit Shifting Overseas

#14

Why would smaller countries who are looking for a competitive edge to attract business ever agree to this? It seems like this is really just in the interest of the US and other big incumbents that rely on large tax revenue already. But even within that group, enforcing such a minimum really has the effect of cementing the incumbents' hold on economic power. So why would any nations other than the US agree to this, wh…

Without justifying whether or not this is a good thing to do, large countries have a lot of economic levers to use with smaller countries. (Tariffs, limiting foreign direct investment, etc)

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While I have never looked deeply into the topic of big business corporate taxes, I do share a strong suspicion that the corporate tax system is flawed, and would be supportive of reform in the system. Including international cooperation for solving this.

But the way they went about this is disappointing.

There should be a way to solve this that would still allow countries to compete in attracting businesses. They talk as if they want everybody to settle for mediocrity.

> Treasury Secretary Janet L. Yellen has warned that a global “race to the bottom” has been eating away at government revenues.

This literally sounds like something a cartel would say.

Re: U.S. Backs 15% Global Minimum Tax to Curb Profit Shifting Overseas

#17

Does humanity really want an authority powerful enough to claim dominion over the entire planet?

This isn't a great article. It's more about the politics than the actual proposal. Bloomberg has a better write up: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-08/plans-for... To answer your question, this wouldn't create a new organization to collect a global tax. Instead it would give the IRS the authority to tax American companies (say, Google) an additional amount on their overseas earnings. So, if they paid…

Last I checked the US tax code does this already. If the US tax rate is higher you pay the difference!

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Thank God the US is taking charge of the GLOBAL finances. What could go wrong!? This is ladder pulling. Who needs smaller countries competing on fiscal rates when all tech should be registered in Dellaware? Note how it's a small 15% to start with. If this goes through and all the treaties are in place moving it to 25% should be much easier. Maybe the US should investigate all the creative ways US corporations pay so…

“It's a problem caused by US and US corporation and now they come to provide a solution”

Shouldn’t the responsibility for US corporate problems be (presumably) addressed by the US government? I’m not understanding your point here.

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