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Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by taylodl »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #10
Simulacra wrote: post #6

This is a wonderful idea! To purchase products made in China is, let's be real, indirectly supporting genocide and human rights abuses. Not buying from China, or anything made in China, is going to be extremely difficult but it's a small step.

On the other hand, $OTHER_COUNTRY has a history of $BAD_THING, so the only conscientious thing to do is boycott everything their workers produce too.

Exactly. Many Americans, for example, seem perfectly content to overlook or ignore the war crime atrocities committed by the United States during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars after 9/11. Reminds me when Jesus asked who do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?

As a Cold War kid I've come to despise this whole WE are the good guys, THEY are the bad guys narrative. It ignores the fact everybody has good traits and everybody has bad traits - that is it ignores the fact we're all human. None of us have the market cornered on doing good. Or doing bad.

Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by bigphishy »

jhvkjhk wrote: post #3

> This organization is ... not against Chinese people in China or abroad. It's funny that many anti-China people/organization likes to claim they are only against Chinese government, not the Chinese people. Everything they advocate is directly hurting Chinese people. Will stop buying Chinese product benefit Chinese people? Will stop buying Xinjiang cotton benefit Xinjiang people? Will subvert CCP and inject an US con…

I'm an egalitarian who loves all people, I've lived in China, and I especially like their women. It's precisely that reason why I am against the dictatorship of the CCP. Look at their disregard for the biosphere and for nature, or the overfishing by Chinese fishing vessels. It is abhorrent.

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Post by gher-shyu3i »

jhvkjhk wrote: post #8
gher-shyu3i wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will put pressure on the CCP to act like humans. The same happened with France and their anti-Islamic rhetoric after the Muslim population boycotted French products. The CCP is already committing atrocities against its Muslim population, and a stop needs to be put to it.

If you lives in China you will know Muslim and all other minority is privileged in China. Yet the media likes to render them as slaves. Then they can show they are the only humanist.

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Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by bobiny »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #10
Simulacra wrote: post #6

This is a wonderful idea! To purchase products made in China is, let's be real, indirectly supporting genocide and human rights abuses. Not buying from China, or anything made in China, is going to be extremely difficult but it's a small step.

On the other hand, $OTHER_COUNTRY has a history of $BAD_THING, so the only conscientious thing to do is boycott everything their workers produce too.

Boycotting in this case is a tool to make China stop doing bad things. Germany used to have concentration camps, they don't now.

Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by bobiny »

taylodl wrote: post #11
ARandomerDude wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, $OTHER_COUNTRY has a history of $BAD_THING, so the only conscientious thing to do is boycott everything their workers produce too.

Exactly. Many Americans, for example, seem perfectly content to overlook or ignore the war crime atrocities committed by the United States during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars after 9/11. Reminds me when Jesus asked who do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye? As a Cold War kid I've come to despise this whole WE are the good guys, THEY are the bad guys narr…

In case of China there are concrete and contemporary things that people don't like. Like concentration camps. I dunno if boycot is an effective tool, but it's something. I think it's more important to stop the crime that is happening at the moment.

Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by jhvkjhk »

gher-shyu3i wrote: post #13
jhvkjhk wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you lives in China you will know Muslim and all other minority is privileged in China. Yet the media likes to render them as slaves. Then they can show they are the only humanist.

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Adding "This is well known, don't deny it" won't make your saying automatically turns to truth.

Let me show you some number, there are 24 thousands masjids in Xinjiang now (only 1.4 thousands in 1980s). If their religion is forbidden, why the number of masjids is growing?

Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by taylodl »

bobiny wrote: post #15
taylodl wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Many Americans, for example, seem perfectly content to overlook or ignore the war crime atrocities committed by the United States during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars after 9/11. Reminds me when Jesus asked who do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye? As a Cold War kid I've come to despise this whole WE are the good guys, THEY are the bad guys narr…

In case of China there are concrete and contemporary things that people don't like. Like concentration camps. I dunno if boycot is an effective tool, but it's something. I think it's more important to stop the crime that is happening at the moment.

And we locked children in cages and separated them from their parents. You can find something to be outraged about in any country you care to look at.

Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by bobiny »

I totally support local manufacturing. We are too dependent on China to make stuff.

I love when China innovates (DJI) or drive prices down with creativity (Xiaomi). But much of China's competitiveness comes from poor treatment of people.

China's secluded internet and constant surveilancy makes harder for people to speak up and express themselves differently that how "society" dictates.

Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by dylan604 »

bobiny wrote: post #14
ARandomerDude wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, $OTHER_COUNTRY has a history of $BAD_THING, so the only conscientious thing to do is boycott everything their workers produce too.

Boycotting in this case is a tool to make China stop doing bad things. Germany used to have concentration camps, they don't now.

Boycotting is not what stopped Germany though.

Re: Not Made in China Directory

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Post by ksaj »

Since you can search for products made in specific countries, wouldn't this have less of a racist appeal if it was called "Made Here" instead of "Not Made There"?

For example, I live in Canada and like to buy things made here. This site would be useful for that, regardless of my feelings about Chinese (or any other country's) products, government, etc.

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