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FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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I'm genuinely curious how easy no-code app development has to become in order to be adopted at scale in the software industry. Right now I'm still getting the sense that most companies prefer to hire a dedicated app development team and have full control over the architecture.

Yes, you generally always run into something that the company building your low code tools will need to cater for or fix for you somehow. It gives you so much grief that you might as well write and own your tools.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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I am still looking for the equivalent of Visual Basic for making modern Web and mobile apps. It is exciting that we might finally be getting there!

ASP.NET Web Forms + Telerik components always came really close for me for web apps. And to lesser extend Xamarin Forms for mobile as well.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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I'm genuinely curious how easy no-code app development has to become in order to be adopted at scale in the software industry. Right now I'm still getting the sense that most companies prefer to hire a dedicated app development team and have full control over the architecture.

Depends on your use case. I'd say everything that is easily adaptable to a certain amount of common settings, is already there: run of the mill webshops, static websites/blogs/cms-es, forms, "info card" apps. And even with these, run if you want to think outside the box. More complex scenarios require so many knobs and switches that anyone working on them has to become a quasi-developer of a much worse and restrictive "language", akin to SAP or Liferay. So other than that above, put all the "no-code" tech besides "disruptive ai big data blockchain augmented reality platform".

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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post #12

I was very interested up until I saw the pricing. $70 a month is way too much. A big issue here is just how easy flutter is, I'd rather invest 20 hours once to build it using Dart, then to pay $800 a year.

FlutterFlow cofounder here. Thanks for your input on our pricing.

It's more than knowing how to code, we've been building with Flutter for a while now, but there's still no way we could have coded FlutterMet in under an hour. It would take us 10 hrs+ to manually do that. But it took https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXsjnd_4SBo

Also, we allow you to push the generated code to your Github repository, so you don't have to keep paying us once you build your app. :)

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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I'm genuinely curious how easy no-code app development has to become in order to be adopted at scale in the software industry. Right now I'm still getting the sense that most companies prefer to hire a dedicated app development team and have full control over the architecture.

Most "apps" are really replacements for simple web pages because of the way Apple is distorting computing.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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At the risk of being a grump, is this yet another thing that could probably be as good as HyperCard, but won't because monetizing these sort of heavily creative things tends not to work?

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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post #15
post #12

I was very interested up until I saw the pricing. $70 a month is way too much. A big issue here is just how easy flutter is, I'd rather invest 20 hours once to build it using Dart, then to pay $800 a year.

FlutterFlow cofounder here. Thanks for your input on our pricing. It's more than knowing how to code, we've been building with Flutter for a while now, but there's still no way we could have coded FlutterMet in under an hour. It would take us 10 hrs+ to manually do that. But it took https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXsjnd_4SBo Also, we allow you to push the generated code to your Github repository, so you don't have t…

Anyway you can come down to maybe 30$.

Anything over $50 becomes a line item in my budget, I can't justify spending $50 a month in the hobbyist space. It's a great idea, I just don't think I can really afford it.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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I am still looking for the equivalent of Visual Basic for making modern Web and mobile apps. It is exciting that we might finally be getting there!

There's React Studio which is free and quite complete, although has some learning curve:

https://reactstudio.com

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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I've tried it out, registered for the premium to check out the details.

Biggest problem: querying Firebase is problematic. I can bind a collection to a ListView, but in many cases I'd like to map a field to something. For example I have a list of "purchases" and I'd like to map the "buyerId" to an email address. This can't be done, and the generated code is hard to adapt to this kind of use case.

And therein lies the complexity to be honest.

I think it'd worth $30 just as a designer. But you have to be able to code.

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