Once again showing that the hardest problems in tech are not actually technical problems - they're social problems.
What technology problem is not a social problem :)
“Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
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Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
#12As an outsider who hasn't used IRC or Freenode in over a decade, this situation is impenetrable. Neither the posts by the Freenode volunteers nor this post by Andrew paint a coherent narrative I can follow (maybe I'm just old). Best I can gather, the flashpoint that triggered this series of events is a dispute over the control of the freenode domain name and DNS servers?
I think the flashpoint was the nasty lawyerese received by the newly-instated head of staff (tomaw) after he had been elected. The story is impenetrable because, from what I gather, the lawyerese contained a gag order not to discuss the contents of the letter.
Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
#13> In 2017, Christel, the former owner of freenode, asked me for assistance with funding and asked me to acquire it. I oblige.
Was Christel ever the owner of Freenode? I thought Freenode was anarchically-organised.
Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
#14This link initiates a download.
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#15This link initiates a download.
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Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
#16This is probably a pdf of this blog post: https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss I'm not familiar with the situation, but find it odd, that the author signs off as "Chairman, freenode limited" where he seems to be the owner of the company that owns Private Internet Access (PIA) [0]. This form of selectively under-reporting has a weird smell to it. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26053770
It includes additional content, though I didn’t review more closely than that.
Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
#17As an outsider who hasn't used IRC or Freenode in over a decade, this situation is impenetrable. Neither the posts by the Freenode volunteers nor this post by Andrew paint a coherent narrative I can follow (maybe I'm just old). Best I can gather, the flashpoint that triggered this series of events is a dispute over the control of the freenode domain name and DNS servers?
It sounds like rasengan/Andrew Lee wanted a specific DNS change made which was objectionable to the staff, and that triggered the whole mess. I hadn’t seen it mentioned before but one of the chats from Thomas includes something about backing off from a DNS change.
Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
#18As an outsider who hasn't used IRC or Freenode in over a decade, this situation is impenetrable. Neither the posts by the Freenode volunteers nor this post by Andrew paint a coherent narrative I can follow (maybe I'm just old). Best I can gather, the flashpoint that triggered this series of events is a dispute over the control of the freenode domain name and DNS servers?
Hi this is Andrew from the post and freenode.
Long story short, former staff were upset about a logo but the logos were there since the start. I wanted to share that.
Secondly, staff claim there was a hostile takeover. I have owned freenode for years and was a great custodian as far as I can tell (only compliments from former staff some of which even flew into defcon and came to my house on my dime, internationally) - I intervened when a hostile takeover from the inside began taking place - my dns was cut and the internal structure was changing to a non democratic one. All of this is detailed in the post and screenshots for proof since there’s been a lot of falsehoods spread.
I had to step in and did just in time.
Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
#19> In 2017, Christel, the former owner of freenode, asked me for assistance with funding and asked me to acquire it. I oblige. Was Christel ever the owner of Freenode? I thought Freenode was anarchically-organised.
Christel was the head of staff and created a limited corporation in the UK to manage freenode’s name and trademarks. What’s unclear is how much “freenode limited” owns in terms of the network itself.
Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]
#20As an outsider who hasn't used IRC or Freenode in over a decade, this situation is impenetrable. Neither the posts by the Freenode volunteers nor this post by Andrew paint a coherent narrative I can follow (maybe I'm just old). Best I can gather, the flashpoint that triggered this series of events is a dispute over the control of the freenode domain name and DNS servers?
I think the flashpoint was the nasty lawyerese received by the newly-instated head of staff (tomaw) after he had been elected. The story is impenetrable because, from what I gather, the lawyerese contained a gag order not to discuss the contents of the letter.
These letters were sent both ways. That’s why I was unable to speak until now.