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Scaleway announces measures against abusive Chia plotting and farming

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Re: Scaleway announces measures against abusive Chia plotting and farming

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Post by kevingadd »

tpetry wrote: post #5

Hetzner has forbidden Chia yesterday too because the disk are used a lot when chia farming.

Technically plotting is the really bad part, farming mostly just occupies storage and uses a bit of CPU. Not that I personally am a fan of either, but plotting is the destructive part and then you 'farm' the completed plot forever and that can be done on inexpensive spinning rust drives by a cheap PC.

Re: Scaleway announces measures against abusive Chia plotting and farming

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Post by scohesc »

AlexCoventry wrote: post #7

> Chia plotting is extremely I/O intensive and destroys most SSDs in under a few weeks Woah, really?

From what I understand, newer consumer level SSDs are designed to have a lower TBW (TeraBytes Written) - mostly because any reasonable consumer doesn't write terabytes of data to their SSDs in any decent length of time. Enterprise/Higher end "GaMeR" SSDs have higher TBW ratings - I believe 1TB FireCuda Model NVMe SSDs have something insane like a 1800 TBW rating when I was looking a couple weeks back.

These above mentioned consumer drives, when written to in massive amounts (I believe even the lower sized Chia plots thrash the SSD to the tune of at least a couple terabytes of write usage) cause it to degrade at a significantly higher rate.

Long story short, consumer SSDs aren't designed for super high write tasks, while enterprise and higher-end ones are.

Re: Scaleway announces measures against abusive Chia plotting and farming

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Post by scohesc »

meepmorp wrote: post #2

> As you can see, (the scale is in Petabytes), the space used is growing uncontrollably, and has already reached 7 Exabytes. Judging by the graph in the article, it was 1 exabyte in late April, under a month ago. Wow.

There's been an absolute metric crap-ton of interest generated since the media has started picking it up and taking about it 2-3 weeks ago. It seems like it's one of the first crypto offerings that relies not on constant CPU/GPU usage, but just proof of "storage" from what I understand.

Very interesting.

Re: Scaleway announces measures against abusive Chia plotting and farming

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Post by scohesc »

supergirl wrote: post #14

is it not feasible to plot on AWS? would be interesting if they are also forced to ban this.

From what I understand, the network/algorithm is designed to prevent this from happening - either due to massively huge egress costs (I think you need to 'upload' the whole plot to the network after you have a verified proof), or for sheer data storage cases (some farmers/miners have tens of petabytes of plots already - i wonder how much that would cost to store monthly?)
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