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The Array Cast – A podcast about the array programming languages

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Re: The Array Cast – A podcast about the array programming languages

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This is very exciting. I’ve been really inspired by the passion Conor Hoekstra has for APL and J. His other podcast (Algorithms + Data Structures = Programming) is a lot of fun, and his YouTube videos are very educational, but I’ve really wanted something like this where he can interact with other experts outside of the C++ world.

Instant subscribe from me.

Re: The Array Cast – A podcast about the array programming languages

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Surprising highly production values -- programming podcasts are typically extremely poor auido with very little prep going into to them.

These days having good video and audio quality doesn't require a lot of money. It just requires couple of hours educating yourself online what you need and how to use it.

Re: The Array Cast – A podcast about the array programming languages

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No fortran guy?

I think the goal in bringing in a C++ programmer was to provide an outsider view, but no, no Fortran guy. I don't think Fortran is an array language in that arrays are not the only datastructures in Fortran, though?

Is an array language a language where you only have arrays? That honestly sounds a bit odd.

Re: The Array Cast – A podcast about the array programming languages

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A bit sad that this interesting content is not available for audio/video impaired readers.

Fyi if you weren't aware ... most podcasts don't have text of the audio because high-quality (accurate) transcription of podcasts costs money. Example rates: https://www.google.com/search?q=podcast+transcription+servic...

So this thread's podcast of 52 minutes of a complex technical topic with multiple speakers could cost ~$200. A programming-related podcast is already a niche topic with a tiny audience and an Array Languages podcast is an even tinier subset of that so the cost might not be justified.

I suppose podcasts could be uploaded to Youtube and let their speech-to-text algorithm do an auto-transcribe. However, the A.I. algorithm is not good at tech topics with industry jargon/acronyms and the resultant transcription will be inaccurate.

Re: The Array Cast – A podcast about the array programming languages

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No fortran guy?

I think the goal in bringing in a C++ programmer was to provide an outsider view, but no, no Fortran guy. I don't think Fortran is an array language in that arrays are not the only datastructures in Fortran, though?

Fortran isn't an array language at all, really. Maybe some features of the array languages style are super-imposed atop it with parallizing extensions, dialects, or whatnot; but it's style has always been and still is to write explicit loops and mutate state left and right. John Backus in his famous 1977 turing award speech explicitly named it a representative of the "fat weak" languages he talked of and said it was a thin veneer over assembly, he based his fictional FP language on APL instead.

Maybe grandparent meant it has the same _application_ as array languages, in that its only surviving kingdom is scientific computing where devouring gargantuan arrays of numerics is the only thing that matters, unlike C or C++ that are much more widely used. Maybe that's why it has a long history of being parallized with various tools and runtimes _despite_ its inherent imperativeness. (I don't remember where I heard this, but somebody wrote an analyzer to analyze some Fortran programmes in the 90s and found that over 80%/90% of Fortran programmes are spent doing variations of map, filter and reduce. So it's an extremely imperative language against its intended use. Maybe I will post a link in an edit when I find the source of the claim)

Re: The Array Cast – A podcast about the array programming languages

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the goal in bringing in a C++ programmer was to provide an outsider view, but no, no Fortran guy. I don't think Fortran is an array language in that arrays are not the only datastructures in Fortran, though?

Is an array language a language where you only have arrays? That honestly sounds a bit odd.

You could consider Pandas / numpy an array language, even though it's really a library for Python. The exposed API is IMHO what's important.

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A bit sad that this interesting content is not available for audio/video impaired readers.

Fyi if you weren't aware ... most podcasts don't have text of the audio because high-quality (accurate) transcription of podcasts costs money . Example rates: https://www.google.com/search?q=podcast+transcription+servic... So this thread's podcast of 52 minutes of a complex technical topic with multiple speakers could cost ~$200. A programming-related podcast is already a niche topic with a tiny audience and an Array…

Presumably there was a script or at least a summary. Why not publish that as well as any slides used?
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