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A teenager's guide to avoiding actual work

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Re: A teenager's guide to avoiding actual work

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post #7

I really liked this story, and it resonated with me. My programming career began in much the same way, at about the same time. The only non-computer job I've ever had was my first, a six-week stint at a Burger King, and I was desperate to never do that again. I undersold my skills often, and got in over my head just as often. It was a great, if sometimes painful, learning experience.

When and how did things change, if I may ask?

Re: A teenager's guide to avoiding actual work

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The luck and the postscript really resonated with me. For more than 30 years now, I've been telling people I hit the jackpot: Computer programming is something I'm really good at, that I enjoy doing and that pays really well. Very few people get all three.

I had to work summer jobs though, starting at 15: road crew, pounding spikes on the railway, lumberjack. I'm not sure I would have been better off for not having those jobs though. I learned a lot about what the average person does to get by and about how much alcohol gives me minor alcohol poisoning.

Re: A teenager's guide to avoiding actual work

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Great story. Two things:

1. Would this still be possible today? It's a certain timeframe (for software) where this was possible. Today it's things like SAP, integrated systems and DMCA on top of it (or Excel).

2. I did the menial route and am still happy for it. Flipping burgers, cleaning dishes, repairing truck tires and cleaning office buildings. It's a different sort of grit and stamina than the one that gets you far in your office career, but I still look back fondly on the lessons about hard work. It was also an introduction into diversity. I've met people on those jobs the 16-year old me never met before, and since. For me the lesson is: whatever my kids will do in jobs on the side, it pleases somebody enough to give them money and them enough to do the job it's a worthwhile lesson.

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Loved this one. When I was mid-20’s I found myself in a “how much” situation as well. Thankfully I had the gumption to “go for it.” I had found a solution to save the business 100k+ when another contractor charged 10k+ and failed to complete a job because the business couldn’t pay them any more. The thing is, once I started digging into it, the other contractor had done 95% of the work; It just needed a nudge to get…

It's crazy sometimes the gap between an appropriate hourly pay and the monetary value of the output. I'm sure OP would have come up with something in between as well, but being put on the spot and caught completely off guard like that for the first time I think the $100 was a fine deal.

Re: A teenager's guide to avoiding actual work

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Loved this one. When I was mid-20’s I found myself in a “how much” situation as well. Thankfully I had the gumption to “go for it.” I had found a solution to save the business 100k+ when another contractor charged 10k+ and failed to complete a job because the business couldn’t pay them any more. The thing is, once I started digging into it, the other contractor had done 95% of the work; It just needed a nudge to get…

You saved the business 100k+ and you charged 3k? Next time call yourself a consultant and add another zero.

Re: A teenager's guide to avoiding actual work

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Loved this one. When I was mid-20’s I found myself in a “how much” situation as well. Thankfully I had the gumption to “go for it.” I had found a solution to save the business 100k+ when another contractor charged 10k+ and failed to complete a job because the business couldn’t pay them any more. The thing is, once I started digging into it, the other contractor had done 95% of the work; It just needed a nudge to get…

That's just economics. It's just like Apple or Samsung "magically" deciding that the price to fix your broken screen is just slightly under what it costs to buy the same phone used.

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post #13

Great story. Two things: 1. Would this still be possible today? It's a certain timeframe (for software) where this was possible. Today it's things like SAP, integrated systems and DMCA on top of it (or Excel). 2. I did the menial route and am still happy for it. Flipping burgers, cleaning dishes, repairing truck tires and cleaning office buildings. It's a different sort of grit and stamina than the one that gets you…

> Would this still be possible today? It's a certain timeframe (for software) where this was possible. Today it's things like SAP, integrated systems and DMCA on top of it (or Excel).

There's still a lot of utterly awful, sloppy business software around, especially for SMBs.

Re: A teenager's guide to avoiding actual work

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I really liked this story. Im much too young to have been around for it, but I feel like this era of computing must have been kind of magical where there was a lot of access and no walled garden nearly to the scale of a google or apple where the obfuscation just requires a flipped bit.

I'm old enough that my heart fluttered when he mentioned the "ELF II" development board! That's some serious old school magical stuff. That used car salesman was incredibly lucky to snag such a hacker, who had no fear of jumping into hex dumps and flipping bits around, for solving problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELF_II

The RCA 1802 processor even had "SEX" and "GET HIGH" instructions!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_1802

https://www.atarimagazines.com/computeii/issue3/page52.php

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