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Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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Small change. I'm sure Google will just write it off as "the cost of doing business".

€100M for not allowing the EnelX app (electric car charging infrastructure in Italy) with Android Auto is a significant fine. Even if €100M on its own is not much to Google, it is still an expensive precedent for similar cases in the future.

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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post #9

What a steaming pile of digested waste material. Have they ever thought about fixing their app? There are plenty of Android Auto apps on the store.

The existence of other Android Auto apps mean nothing. Enel is quite a large company and I am sure it has a lot of people working on its mobile applications. Besides, they are enforcing European law.

Just because they are big in one particular sector doesn't mean that the app they built didn't have problems (security in this case). This is very likely just a way to squeeze some money from a foreign company.

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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post #2

Small change. I'm sure Google will just write it off as "the cost of doing business".

€100M for not allowing the EnelX app (electric car charging infrastructure in Italy) with Android Auto is a significant fine. Even if €100M on its own is not much to Google, it is still an expensive precedent for similar cases in the future.

In Italy, the judgements are not a source of law, so this ruling does not mean that a similar situation would have the same outcome in the future.

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

€100M for not allowing the EnelX app (electric car charging infrastructure in Italy) with Android Auto is a significant fine. Even if €100M on its own is not much to Google, it is still an expensive precedent for similar cases in the future.

In Italy, the judgements are not a source of law, so this ruling does not mean that a similar situation would have the same outcome in the future.

I think some degree of jurisprudence is always present in any legal system. It's the natural law.

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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What a steaming pile of digested waste material. Have they ever thought about fixing their app? There are plenty of Android Auto apps on the store.

It's half true, there are plenty of android auto apps on the store. The majority of them are music playing apps. Navigation apps are not allowed by google. I have 2 cars with android auto and android auto is useless for me because i cannot mirror the phone screen.

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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post #5

Quick summary: the biggest electricity provider in the country (ENEL) made an app (Juicepass) to find and manage their charging stations across the country. The Android Auto functionality of the app has been rejected by Google for non disclosed "security concerns while driving". The antitrust ruled out it was because Google wanted to sabotage competitor apps to the charging stations finder built-in in the Google Maps…

And a quick reminder to everybody else that walled gardens don't actually help the consumer. They only arbitrarily restrict choice, they don't actually improve security (if any, that's provided by the sandboxing, not by the store "review").

If this company (ENEL) wasn't a huge state-wide electric company (inheriting their power and ties from the previous state-owned monopoly) how many chances do you think they had to fight?

As a small fish you're just dumped.

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The existence of other Android Auto apps mean nothing. Enel is quite a large company and I am sure it has a lot of people working on its mobile applications. Besides, they are enforcing European law.

Just because they are big in one particular sector doesn't mean that the app they built didn't have problems (security in this case). This is very likely just a way to squeeze some money from a foreign company.

Security was never a concern for google. There is a lot of malware in Google play. But the interference with their monopoly is a concern for them.

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

€100M for not allowing the EnelX app (electric car charging infrastructure in Italy) with Android Auto is a significant fine. Even if €100M on its own is not much to Google, it is still an expensive precedent for similar cases in the future.

In Italy, the judgements are not a source of law, so this ruling does not mean that a similar situation would have the same outcome in the future.

Yes, but in practice precedence has some informal weight even in civil law systems.

(And in the same spirit, precedence can be overridden relatively easily in a common law system, too, the judge just has to find an obscure aspect of the new case that allows her to argue that the old cases don't apply.)

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Italy, the judgements are not a source of law, so this ruling does not mean that a similar situation would have the same outcome in the future.

I think some degree of jurisprudence is always present in any legal system. It's the natural law.

Jurisprudence doesn’t necessarily imply a legal system where a legal precedent carries outsize weight, so I don’t quite get what you mean by it being a natural law.

Re: Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

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post #3

It's almost like the government's around the world are waking up to the fact they can actually push back on the ultra mega corps of the world. Or they're seeing weakness in the US and taking their geopolitical shots.

this is just pretending and games. it's a novel around something in the periphery, when the center is very stable and established

What does your comment mean, in less poetic form?
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