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Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by imglorp »

BelenusMordred wrote: post #6
mariuolo wrote: post #2

Not much they can do to her in Russia. I also assume she's smart enough not to keep anything important in her iCloud.

> Not much they can do to her in X I think you really underestimate the power of smear/ blackmail campaigns and how effectively they have worked in the last century for the intelligence services. This has nothing to do with upholding the law.

Look what happened to Kim Dotcom over US copyright at the behest of the corporate content owners: swat team, extradition hearings, the works. The US penalties are greater than murder.

Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by guerrilla »

imglorp wrote: post #11
BelenusMordred wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not much they can do to her in X I think you really underestimate the power of smear/ blackmail campaigns and how effectively they have worked in the last century for the intelligence services. This has nothing to do with upholding the law.

Look what happened to Kim Dotcom over US copyright at the behest of the corporate content owners: swat team, extradition hearings, the works. The US penalties are greater than murder.

He wasn't in Russia though, Snowden is in Russia.

Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by matheusmoreira »

imglorp wrote: post #11
BelenusMordred wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not much they can do to her in X I think you really underestimate the power of smear/ blackmail campaigns and how effectively they have worked in the last century for the intelligence services. This has nothing to do with upholding the law.

Look what happened to Kim Dotcom over US copyright at the behest of the corporate content owners: swat team, extradition hearings, the works. The US penalties are greater than murder.

Yeah, it's insanity. That guy somehow got worse treatment than violent drug traffickers.

Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by slimsag »

Sounds like she's been in hiding since 2015[0]:

> Following a 2015 lawsuit brought in the US by the publisher Elsevier, Elbakyan remains in hiding due to the risk of extradition; Elsevier was granted an injunction against her and $15 million in damages. Elbakyan and Sci-Hub were again involved in a US lawsuit in 2017, this time with the American Chemical Society. ACS sued the site for copyright and trademark violations, and conversion. Later that year, the court ruled in favor of ACS, fining Sci-Hub $4,800,000 in damages, enjoining further infringement, and prohibiting search engines and domain name registries from "facilitating access" to Sci-Hub.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Elbakyan#Creating_Sc...

Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by nurgasemetey »

imglorp wrote: post #11
BelenusMordred wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not much they can do to her in X I think you really underestimate the power of smear/ blackmail campaigns and how effectively they have worked in the last century for the intelligence services. This has nothing to do with upholding the law.

Look what happened to Kim Dotcom over US copyright at the behest of the corporate content owners: swat team, extradition hearings, the works. The US penalties are greater than murder.

I don't understand one thing. Why Germany didn't interfere extradiction? (I assume that he held Germany citizenship)

Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by yonaguska »

kome wrote: post #8

Alexandra Elbakyan is a hero. Nothing less than that. Let's celebrate her and the memory of Aaron Swartz. Swartz was pushed to suicide because this oppressive system. Let's fight against this. Let's put our money and time to sustain Elbakyan's effort to open science.

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Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by lostlogin »

BelenusMordred wrote: post #6
mariuolo wrote: post #2

Not much they can do to her in Russia. I also assume she's smart enough not to keep anything important in her iCloud.

> Not much they can do to her in X I think you really underestimate the power of smear/ blackmail campaigns and how effectively they have worked in the last century for the intelligence services. This has nothing to do with upholding the law.

> This has nothing to do with upholding the law.

It had everything to do with New Zealand politicians trying to impress the powerful. It’s was embarrassing.

Said as a New Zealander.

Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by ryanlol »

nurgasemetey wrote: post #15
imglorp wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look what happened to Kim Dotcom over US copyright at the behest of the corporate content owners: swat team, extradition hearings, the works. The US penalties are greater than murder.

I don't understand one thing. Why Germany didn't interfere extradiction? (I assume that he held Germany citizenship)

Why would they?

Re: FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

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Post by periheli0n »

nurgasemetey wrote: post #15
imglorp wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look what happened to Kim Dotcom over US copyright at the behest of the corporate content owners: swat team, extradition hearings, the works. The US penalties are greater than murder.

I don't understand one thing. Why Germany didn't interfere extradiction? (I assume that he held Germany citizenship)

Because Schmitz was in New Zealand at the time. Not much Germany can do to overturn NZ law. Germany is not the US after all…
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