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How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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Re: How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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This wasn't what I expected based on the title. It's probably a concept that's hard to categorize.

I have had only one full-time paid job so far, so I don't know how to assess the suggestion. But it's a thought provoking piece if you actually read the article and not just the title.

Re: How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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post #7

> how to survive a toxic workplace Don't! Cut your losses and move on. Life is too short to spend any significant amounts of time around toxic people, no matter the context.

I think there is still value in developing a coping mechanism, or the few days spent in this culture will change your worldview for the worse, even if it’s just a bit.

I spent years in a toxic primary school - things were tried to improve it, but some kids were still being bullied constantly. Back then, private schools in my area were hardly an option, and other schools were a legal hassle to switch to. Sometimes you need to learn to cope.

Re: How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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I feel like I didn't get anything out that as far as the title goes.

I just got a lot of "be loyal to each other before being loyal to Kelsus" and "Kelsus" and that's kinda empty.

Being "loyal" to your friends can be just as much a recipe for bad choices as good as far as I read it...

Re: How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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I have been one of the toxic persons in a workplace. I was young and immature and an ungrateful arrogant prick. Not saying I'm totally reformed now (I still have my moments!). But every so often I see a little former-me running around. After a certain point I stop them and ask them to please calm the fuck down, because they are acting fucking nuts. That can sometimes result in a 180-degree behavior change (especially after a manager has already talked to them) because they usually don't want to get fired. I can't "fix" them, but I can give them the benefit of the doubt that they may want to be better, and may just need a nudge now and then to re-adjust.

Re: How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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post #7

> how to survive a toxic workplace Don't! Cut your losses and move on. Life is too short to spend any significant amounts of time around toxic people, no matter the context.

Ironic that you write that a few days after Montana announced that it is cancelling unemployment benefit to force people into jobs.

Few people have the luxury of SV-style job agility, so having a basic survival guide is useful. It might just keep them sane until they can make a change for the better.

Re: How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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post #7

> how to survive a toxic workplace Don't! Cut your losses and move on. Life is too short to spend any significant amounts of time around toxic people, no matter the context.

You won’t always have that option. In ‘02 I ended up taking a job as I had been out of work for 9 mos, it paid 1/2 of what I was earning previously, and that was just the start.

But, I had no other options at the time. It took 2 years to gtfo, and the next place was minimally better (I got ptsd from pager noises there).

So, yeah, learning to survive a toxic work place is a good thing.

I have some health problems now that I blame on the stress.

Re: How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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Oh man, the worst are those that pretend to be benevolent but end up firing you after a vacation. The one who writes memory-bloated code, who keeps state around, that loves to cross types has the gaul to do a single performance review after 8 months to criticize your code quality and fire you. (Recent experience)

Or how about the one guy that shouts at people when they ask ANY question on why things work that way, responding with things like "NO!! It's not how we do it" and berating newer employees with their lack of legacy knowledge.

I've seen a grown man, extremely well educated, data scientist make a fellow data scientist cry. I've. Seen. Things.

I also made a conscience decision to focus on people, co-workers, and foster those relationships where I can. Sometimes I have to leave those behind when drastic life changes happen, but ultimately I'll always be there should they need me. Kudos to the OP for including the Sinek clip, love that guy.

Re: How to survive a toxic workplace and how to avoid creating one

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Imagine going into an environment suffering some serious performance issues adversely affecting the day-to-day operations of the business. From initial conversations it seems great. You're asked about how you'd handle, "difficult personalities" a fair bit, but aside from that, seems like you can add a ton of value. In your first days, you exhaustively quantitatively measure the entire operating environment, prioritiz…

Yes, this is the problem. Unprofessional, low-quality employees think employment is "king of the hill," when really it's "tides lift all boats." It only takes 1 person in a company of a hundred to completely destroy it. Allow one psychopath into your company and it'll go bankrupt or otherwise defunct within just a couple years. These folks are afraid. They know their performance is substandard. They exist by hiding t…

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