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Re: Playlist for iOS

#11

Post by CharlesW »

devmunchies wrote: post #5

I think creating BAT was one of the smartest things Brave did. How is that relevant? It has > $2billion market cap. They don't need Google's money like Mozilla. This feature allows you to download a youtube video and watch it offline. It also lets you play it in background mode so you can listen to audio with the screen off. Google doesn't let you do that unless you pay for youtube. And on the bottom of this announce…

> I think creating BAT was one of the smartest things Brave did. […] This feature allows you to download a youtube video and watch it offline.

That feature is unrelated to BAT.

Also: Brave has a built-in functionality to violate YouTube's ToS (sections 5B and 5C)?

Re: Playlist for iOS

#12

Post by jarenmf »

xNeil wrote: post #9

I used to use Brave a lot, not so much now. They seem to be trying to become a privacy-friendly alternative to Google, which I respect, but I'm not sure why, I thoroughly dislike their Brave Ads. Not because their (edit:they're) intrusive, but they're basically saying "We're going to block ads from Google, but we're going to show you our own ads, because ours are privacy-friendly!" They are adding a subscription feat…

But you can easily disable the ads if you don't like them

Re: Playlist for iOS

#14

Post by xNeil »

jarenmf wrote: post #12
xNeil wrote: post #9

I used to use Brave a lot, not so much now. They seem to be trying to become a privacy-friendly alternative to Google, which I respect, but I'm not sure why, I thoroughly dislike their Brave Ads. Not because their (edit:they're) intrusive, but they're basically saying "We're going to block ads from Google, but we're going to show you our own ads, because ours are privacy-friendly!" They are adding a subscription feat…

But you can easily disable the ads if you don't like them

Of course! And while that is a valid point, my issue is not that you can turn them on or off - it's the fact that they are there.

Again -I totally understand they have to make money. This is only my opinion - that's all - but it just seems wrong to replace someone else's ads with your own.

Re: Playlist for iOS

#15

Post by SheinhardtWigCo »

gowld wrote: post #10
devmunchies wrote: post #5

I think creating BAT was one of the smartest things Brave did. How is that relevant? It has > $2billion market cap. They don't need Google's money like Mozilla. This feature allows you to download a youtube video and watch it offline. It also lets you play it in background mode so you can listen to audio with the screen off. Google doesn't let you do that unless you pay for youtube. And on the bottom of this announce…

Is that $2billion in spendable money for Brave? If people use BATs to pay publishers, that's not Brave's money.

They hold 13.3% of all BAT.

Re: Playlist for iOS

#16

Post by xNeil »

CharlesW wrote: post #11
devmunchies wrote: post #5

I think creating BAT was one of the smartest things Brave did. How is that relevant? It has > $2billion market cap. They don't need Google's money like Mozilla. This feature allows you to download a youtube video and watch it offline. It also lets you play it in background mode so you can listen to audio with the screen off. Google doesn't let you do that unless you pay for youtube. And on the bottom of this announce…

> I think creating BAT was one of the smartest things Brave did. […] This feature allows you to download a youtube video and watch it offline. That feature is unrelated to BAT. Also: Brave has a built-in functionality to violate YouTube's ToS (sections 5B and 5C)?

While I can't be sure of what they were trying to say, my guess would be they were referring to the fact that Mozilla earns money from partnering with Google, while Brave doesn't need to do that, they have BAT, and so Brave might not be as hesitant to modify YouTube functionality as Mozilla.

Re: Playlist for iOS

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Post by waltherg »

xNeil wrote: post #14
jarenmf wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you can easily disable the ads if you don't like them

Of course! And while that is a valid point, my issue is not that you can turn them on or off - it's the fact that they are there. Again -I totally understand they have to make money. This is only my opinion - that's all - but it just seems wrong to replace someone else's ads with your own.

I thought the point of those ads wasn't that Brave make money but that you accrue those Brave tokens as a representation of your attention and get to send those tokens to publishers of your choice via the browser?

Also, I turned them off as these ads are quite annoying and have a "cheap feel" to them.

Re: Playlist for iOS

#18

Post by jarenmf »

xNeil wrote: post #14
jarenmf wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you can easily disable the ads if you don't like them

Of course! And while that is a valid point, my issue is not that you can turn them on or off - it's the fact that they are there. Again -I totally understand they have to make money. This is only my opinion - that's all - but it just seems wrong to replace someone else's ads with your own.

I think it's a valid point for discussion but they deliver the ads through a different mechanism (system notifications). So it's a bit different than replacing the ads of other web pages.

Re: Playlist for iOS

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Post by PascLeRasc »

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #15
gowld wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that $2billion in spendable money for Brave? If people use BATs to pay publishers, that's not Brave's money.

They hold 13.3% of all BAT.

How many US Dollars can they extract from that before all the selling crashes the price?

Re: Playlist for iOS

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Post by rvp-x »

AlexandrB wrote: post #8
goodcjw2 wrote: post #4

This seems to be bypassing all the ads in YT? Basically we can get Youtube Premium for free here? Wondering what's the legal implication for brave.com to make such as app? edit: I could be completely over thinking this.

Youtube-dl also gives you this ability. My sense is that Google doesn't like it but doesn't want to deal with the PR fallout of banning tools like youtube-dl at the moment. Perhaps if this gets popular enough Google will do something.

NewPipe isn't on the Google Play store. I assume that this app can't be either.
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