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Snapchat Can Be Sued for Role in Fatal Car Crash, Court Rules

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My gut reaction was to say 'No if social media makes you do something stupid, that's your fault' But a speed filter , which outright encourages breaking traffic laws is a whole different story. Who ever greenlit this trash needs to be put in jail.

Since we're throwing blame around how about the parents take actual responsibility for their shitty parenting?

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Maybe I misinterpreted the cause and effect here, but is there a meaningful difference between a Snapchat video with a "speed filter" and a cellphone video of somebody driving fast that includes footage of their car's speedometer? Is any speed gauge likely to make people drive fast, and therefore open to litigation? Edit: Here's footage of the Speed Filter in action: https://youtu.be/Bk45g_5l6m0?t=68 https://youtu.be…

I think if a social media organization encouraged a #highspeedometer hashtag they could also be liable. It's not the filter or the speedometer, it's that Snapchat set up a defacto social incentive for speeding.

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My gut reaction was to say 'No if social media makes you do something stupid, that's your fault' But a speed filter , which outright encourages breaking traffic laws is a whole different story. Who ever greenlit this trash needs to be put in jail.

A filter that displays your current speed has no inherent danger and does not encourage anything in and of itself. Idiots that decide to drive over 100mph in a car not designed for high speeds, on public roads, and with no proper training just to capture a cool number on a screen are the ones who should be put in jail. Should we jail the person that invented the speedometer as well?

A filter that broadcasts your speedometer to your followers live is different though. Almost like watching a live race car driver.

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My gut reaction was to say 'No if social media makes you do something stupid, that's your fault' But a speed filter , which outright encourages breaking traffic laws is a whole different story. Who ever greenlit this trash needs to be put in jail.

This reminds me a bit of the McDonald's coffee case, something that seems absurd in a headline, but once you take time to understand it (like a jury or court would), makes a great deal of sense. The court of public opinion is generally a bad place to try things.

Not only did it make sense, McDonald's spent countless millions of dollars and years on influencing public opinion to make the general public believe it was about an elderly woman being clumsy. And it all turned into a joke until more people stepped forward.

Re: Snapchat Can Be Sued for Role in Fatal Car Crash, Court Rules

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My gut reaction was to say 'No if social media makes you do something stupid, that's your fault' But a speed filter , which outright encourages breaking traffic laws is a whole different story. Who ever greenlit this trash needs to be put in jail.

A filter that displays your current speed has no inherent danger and does not encourage anything in and of itself. Idiots that decide to drive over 100mph in a car not designed for high speeds, on public roads, and with no proper training just to capture a cool number on a screen are the ones who should be put in jail. Should we jail the person that invented the speedometer as well?

> A filter that displays your current speed has no inherent danger and does not encourage anything in and of itself.

To anyone with a passing acquaintance with the male teenage mind, it is entirely predictable what anything that captures your current speed and broadcasts it to your friends will encourage.

Re: Snapchat Can Be Sued for Role in Fatal Car Crash, Court Rules

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My gut reaction was to say 'No if social media makes you do something stupid, that's your fault' But a speed filter , which outright encourages breaking traffic laws is a whole different story. Who ever greenlit this trash needs to be put in jail.

The immediate similar product that springs to mind is the speed cameras. They'll tell you your speed along with a speed limit sign as you drive by them, but every single one I've seen in the past decade will just flash and say something like "slow down" if you're more than 10 over (don't ask how I know). It was obvious that people were going to try to get high scores.

Re: Snapchat Can Be Sued for Role in Fatal Car Crash, Court Rules

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My gut reaction was to say 'No if social media makes you do something stupid, that's your fault' But a speed filter , which outright encourages breaking traffic laws is a whole different story. Who ever greenlit this trash needs to be put in jail.

A filter that displays your current speed has no inherent danger and does not encourage anything in and of itself. Idiots that decide to drive over 100mph in a car not designed for high speeds, on public roads, and with no proper training just to capture a cool number on a screen are the ones who should be put in jail. Should we jail the person that invented the speedometer as well?

I feel like the crucial difference is context. A speedometer built into a social media app based around sharing video clips/photos is vastly different from a speedometer built into a car.

Re: Snapchat Can Be Sued for Role in Fatal Car Crash, Court Rules

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This is absurd. Even if Snapchat had a banner on the speedometer that said "too fast too furious," is that not their First Amendment right to expression? Since when is encouraging reckless driving a crime? (They didn't do that, for clarity.)

By the way, my speedometer in my car goes up to 160Mph. That number looks pretty enticing. Is Dodge liable if I decide to try it out?

Re: Snapchat Can Be Sued for Role in Fatal Car Crash, Court Rules

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A filter that displays your current speed has no inherent danger and does not encourage anything in and of itself. Idiots that decide to drive over 100mph in a car not designed for high speeds, on public roads, and with no proper training just to capture a cool number on a screen are the ones who should be put in jail. Should we jail the person that invented the speedometer as well?

A speedometer does the opposite of encouraging unsafe behavior by alerting you to the unsafeness of that behavior. The filter in question encouraged unsafe behavior by incentivizing such behavior for social engagement, however absurd you think that incentivization is personally. This is a bit like saying a frat house hazing isn't wrong because no one actually makes the kids drink, the social incentive remains dangero…

A speedometer is completely neutral in the same way the filter is. It displays speed. It does not indicate to you that what you are doing is safe or unsafe.

If it wasn't the filter then people would be sharing pictures of their speedometer while going fast thinking it's cool. What's the difference?

This is not at all like frat hazing, no one is forcing you to take a snapchat to be a part of their organization.

Re: Snapchat Can Be Sued for Role in Fatal Car Crash, Court Rules

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My gut reaction was to say 'No if social media makes you do something stupid, that's your fault' But a speed filter , which outright encourages breaking traffic laws is a whole different story. Who ever greenlit this trash needs to be put in jail.

Since we're throwing blame around how about the parents take actual responsibility for their shitty parenting?

not gonna happen, as in modern standards, everyone else are to blame for your faults except you.
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