We will rent everything, and we will love it.
https://medium.com/illumination/in-2030-youll-own-nothing-an...
Cars are about to be a software platform, subscriptions and all
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#12Tesla's already doing this: https://www.autoblog.com/2020/03/23/tesla-removing-content-f...
> The dealer, United Traders, bought the car directly from Tesla at an auction on November 15, 2019. At the time of that auction sale, the Model S had Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self Driving Capability options installed, which the original owner had paid a combined $8,000 for, as listed on the Monroney that Tesla gave the dealer. On November 18, Tesla ran an audit of the software in its vehicles, including the Model S now owned by the dealership, and removed Enhanced Autopilot. The automaker did not inform the dealer of the changes to the Model S, so the dealer sold the sedan to Alec on December 20 believing the car contained what was on the Monroney.
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#13Smartphone already brought a kind of connection burden, now transport is next.. sociologically it's super weird.
Can't wait to submit my new business idea to the next YC round: selling isolation.
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#14if this is the case its not going to end well for them.
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#15I don't want my car to be a software platform. I want it to be like my microwave. It might have software, but software is only incidental to its operation. I do not want to tweet from my microwave. I do not want ads in traffic. This is non-negotiable for safety reasons alone. I don't care what I have to do to attain that. If that means replacing the radio. I will do it. If you brick my car if I don't have a Manufactu…
> I do not want ads in traffic. This is non-negotiable for safety reasons alone. I know it’s what you want but is it preventable? What’s the difference when today there are LED screens across the intersection you are trying to navigate that are intensely bright and displaying moving images? I’d argue that dimmer images in the car would be less distracting. However we appear on track to get both these dismal options.…
Yes, it is preventable if you buy a car that doesn't have it inside of it.
As long as companies (or people) are allowed/able to make cars without ads in them, then it will be possible.
If the government mandates, or market conditions dictate (due to monopolies or insufficient demand/profit incentive), that ads will be in cars, then it will not be possible, at least for new cars.
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#16IMO the right to repair movement is our best defense against this sort of rent seeking. You can't repair and maintain anything yourself if a subscription is required.
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#17We will rent everything, and we will love it. https://medium.com/illumination/in-2030-youll-own-nothing-an...
We certainly will not love it.
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#18This just feels like the latest in a long line of industries trying to build a recurring revenue model fueled by greed.
Looking at the uproar from moves by Circut[1] and others makes me question how out of touch some of these companies are.
I think companies need to realise a subscription needs to deliver constant tangible value to the consumer.
1.https://connpirg.org/blogs/blog/usp/angry-crafting-moms-blow...
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#19It is only a matter of time before there are jailbreaks and free / open source car operating systems. For related 'food for thought', see Cory Doctorow's "Car Wars" which combines car software hacking with self-driving vehicles for a unique near-future sci-fi story. Edit: downvotes? Instead, you could respond with why you disagree and we can have a discussion. Do you think there will not be jailbreaks? It has been ha…
Yes, but that's a losing game - the manufacturers will continually tighten security until it's infeasible - see how difficult it is to jailbreak current-generation iPhones and game consoles, for instance. The only ways out are social (consumers acting en masse to exert market pressure) or legal (regulation). You can't hack your way around this issue - as the attacker, the strong crypto that exists (and enables things…
Sadly, you are right.
One of the themes in "Car Wars" is that laws are created which make it illegal to run unapproved software on the self-driving cars.
The reasons cited for the laws are "for safety", but it seems like a thin veneer over the car manufacturer having complete control of the car's software, and by extension the car itself.
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#20You don't own your cellphone, you don't own your tv and now you won't own your car too.
I'm pretty sure I own my cellphone, same with TV.