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GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

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Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#11

That seems odd, given that Kevin Wayne is co-author of the 4th edition of "Algorithms".

What seems odd is that the code is freely licenced to the public, no matter who wrote it.

These DMCA requests are created and acted upon without the slightest checking, with no penalty.

There should be some sort of modest cost somewhere to stop this nonsense.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#12
Not totally unrelated: Pearson is a piece of trash company. They sell very overpriced textbooks and always use DRM in online copies. They lobby for standardized tests in states and get them mandated. Students are put through them. And guess who provides the certificate required by teachers to evaluate those exam copies? Yes, Pearson.

And they make a ton of money.

Please watch this talk for more context (even if you don't like TED talks): https://youtu.be/BnC6IABJXOI

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#13

This isn't worth getting your feathers ruffled over. Some algorithm or barely-paid human automaton flagged it, someone higher up will notice it, it'll be added to an exception list, problem solved. It's not ideal, but it's not malicious or nefarious or even worth talking about every time something like this happens. It's a simple mistake that has a simple solution.

I 100% disagree, the fact that as a society we are accepting of this kind of thing as "just the way it is", is the problem

"Ohh its just some bot" should never be an acceptable response, and people creating these bots should have massive fines attached to their false positives. Otherwise there is no incentive to actually validate or improve what these automation systems are doing, the incentive today is the flag everything and worry about it later...

That is not something society should accept

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#14

I give a lot of credit to Sedgewick’s course for helping me break into the software industry, having come from an adjacent field in academia. I hope they can get the repo back up.

In my case it didn't help me break into the software industry - somehow I already managed to do that despite some well-deserved imposter syndrome at the time, but it definitely leveled up the quality of my code

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#16

This isn't worth getting your feathers ruffled over. Some algorithm or barely-paid human automaton flagged it, someone higher up will notice it, it'll be added to an exception list, problem solved. It's not ideal, but it's not malicious or nefarious or even worth talking about every time something like this happens. It's a simple mistake that has a simple solution.

> or even worth talking about every time something like this happens

I think it is, because the core problem is not the wrongful takedown of a single repository itself, it's the outlook that the only way to get these "mistakes" reversed is the hope that it will reach the news, Youtube/Google shows us what the latestage of this nightmare looks like. Github is obviously not nearly this bad (yet?). This case will obviously be restored, it's a popular author, but what about people that don't have this reach?

I don't see how talking about this situation can be a bad thing.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#17

This isn't worth getting your feathers ruffled over. Some algorithm or barely-paid human automaton flagged it, someone higher up will notice it, it'll be added to an exception list, problem solved. It's not ideal, but it's not malicious or nefarious or even worth talking about every time something like this happens. It's a simple mistake that has a simple solution.

Why should someone's 'mistakes' damage my liberties and result in takedown of my property?

this is textbook harassment.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#18
post #12

Not totally unrelated: Pearson is a piece of trash company. They sell very overpriced textbooks and always use DRM in online copies. They lobby for standardized tests in states and get them mandated. Students are put through them. And guess who provides the certificate required by teachers to evaluate those exam copies? Yes, Pearson. And they make a ton of money. Please watch this talk for more context (even if you d…

> very overpriced textbooks

Not just way overpriced, the few Pearson books I happen to own are of an alarmingly low quality. The pages of a phone book look and feel like premium paper compared to my copy of Blitzer's College Algebra.

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#19

This isn't worth getting your feathers ruffled over. Some algorithm or barely-paid human automaton flagged it, someone higher up will notice it, it'll be added to an exception list, problem solved. It's not ideal, but it's not malicious or nefarious or even worth talking about every time something like this happens. It's a simple mistake that has a simple solution.

"someone higher up will notice it" is not always true

no consequences for malicious or invalid DMCA is ridiculous (1$ penalty, paid to targeted individual/company for each invalid DMCA would be a good start)

Re: GitHub repository for Sedgewick's Algorithms is taken down

#20

That seems odd, given that Kevin Wayne is co-author of the 4th edition of "Algorithms".

What seems odd is that the code is freely licenced to the public, no matter who wrote it. These DMCA requests are created and acted upon without the slightest checking, with no penalty. There should be some sort of modest cost somewhere to stop this nonsense.

> There should be some sort of modest cost somewhere to stop this nonsense.

Playing the Devil's Advocate here:

But wouldn't that in turn incentivise actual copyright infringement on account of it potentially being cheaper to mass publish copyrighted material as opposed to request it being taken down?

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