So Google can manage hundreds of feature/experiment flags on accounts to control which shade of blue you see in an A/B test, but silo-ing which products an account has access to just isn't possible?
It's the same account though right?
Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stories like this always scare me because they remind me that all of my domain names are on Google domains, including the one I use for my work email address. I gotta migrate out one of these days.
Epik and Namecheap are pretty good imo. Definitely don't use GoDaddy. EDIT: One can find several instances where users search domain names on GoDaddy and they are available at regular price but when they try to place the order, the domain is no longer available and must be bought at a premium price.
Thoughts on Hover? I've been using them without issue for a while but I also never hear about them in the conversation. Is there something I'm missing?
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#13If there's a good alternative never use Google anything. The sole fact that there is no appeal system to account shutdowns and the way they just kill services at random should be enough reason for anyone.
Do other mobile ad networks have a working appeal system?
It seems doubtful because of the same dynamic the article describes. Any working appeal system would teach people how to game them.
The ironic part here is that Google is essentially gaming themselves here: creating a feedback loop that encourages people to not use their ad products. I guess the ML algorithms are not clever enough yet(?) to figure things like that out.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stories like this always scare me because they remind me that all of my domain names are on Google domains, including the one I use for my work email address. I gotta migrate out one of these days.
Epik and Namecheap are pretty good imo. Definitely don't use GoDaddy. EDIT: One can find several instances where users search domain names on GoDaddy and they are available at regular price but when they try to place the order, the domain is no longer available and must be bought at a premium price.
Why is Epik good? Seen Namecheap around before, but never seen anybody recommend Epik.
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#15> Google will never tell you why they banned you from AdSense/AdMob. (Honestly, it sort of makes sense that they share no evidence, because Google doesn’t want people to learn how Google detects click fraud.)
I disagree with this as I mentioned on a prior post about DroidScript. If a justice system doesn't tell people what crime they committed, what proof they have of such crimes etc, then such systems are exploitative and a lot of innocent people get hurt.
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#16Google needs a general support line that doesn’t involve a Medium post making the HN front page
Google has huge development team to make sure to isolate themselves from any user and automate any interaction with- and responses to users.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stories like this always scare me because they remind me that all of my domain names are on Google domains, including the one I use for my work email address. I gotta migrate out one of these days.
Epik and Namecheap are pretty good imo. Definitely don't use GoDaddy. EDIT: One can find several instances where users search domain names on GoDaddy and they are available at regular price but when they try to place the order, the domain is no longer available and must be bought at a premium price.
Epik is excited to provide services for white supremacists. I'd think thrice if this is a vendor I'd like to have my name associated with.
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#18> Google will never tell you why they banned you from AdSense/AdMob. (Honestly, it sort of makes sense that they share no evidence, because Google doesn’t want people to learn how Google detects click fraud.) I disagree with this as I mentioned on a prior post about DroidScript. If a justice system doesn't tell people what crime they committed, what proof they have of such crimes etc, then such systems are exploitati…
Google doesn't care.
Users are just a worthless pawns to extract value through them via advertising.
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#19I'd extend this even further: never use a single account for more than one purpose. Create a separate account at the same company for the other purpose. Some examples: - Every product/project you manage should be on a separate account on Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. - Nothing tied to your consumer accounts should be used for anything business related. - Your Amazon shopping account and your AWS account should defin…
(Author here.) This is excellent advice for consumer apps/products, (it's especially important to keep enterprise accounts fully separate from your individual consumer accounts), but it wouldn't have helped DroidScript in this case.
DroidScript is a non-profit organization; when they signed up for Google AdMob and Google Play Store, they provided the same tax ID (their EIN) in both cases. Creating separate Google accounts with separate email addresses would not have been sufficient; Google knows that they're paying the same company.
(The ads in question were being run inside the same app that accepts Google subscription revenue. Google can and will follow that thread!)
Creating a subsidiary business for every type of Google account you have would be quite expensive, and, if Google realizes what you're doing, it will make you look like you have something to hide, making you more likely to get banned, not less.
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#20I'd say - use any platform for what it's good at. Extract value from platform. Benefit from it, monetise it, let it help you to gather users or following. But NEVER rely on any propriately platform for your business. You're NOT in control. Make sure you have a contingency plan. Have backup (whatever it is for your business). Make sure you have direct, alternative contacts with your users if platform goes nuts.
> But NEVER rely on any propriately platform for your business. You're NOT in control.
While I agree with the premise of your comment, a lot of times, this is pretty much impossible to be done. If a developer gets suspended by Google or other companies like VISA, PayPal etc, it's pretty much impossible to do business then. There needs to be an internet bill of rights which should take care of these things.