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Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

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Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

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Post by carpedimebagjoe »

xkeysc0re wrote: post #6
sodality2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you name some of those consequences in "western society" you believe were caused by "coddling helicopter gov't" actions, similar to regulating advertising addictive products to minors?

Yes. Society-wide we see an increased abdication of personal responsibility and general apathy. Increased mental illness. Severe feelings of loneliness and isolation brought about due to atomization by a government that's operated like a consultancy avoiding any liability or risk.

That maybe so, but those are a lot of different areas to cover. Perhaps specific examples, trends, and/or causes would help support each claim.

For example, how is it the government's fault, in particular? Is it only the government's fault? Are there other contributing factors or trends? It comes across too much like oversimplified scapegoatism rather than a reasoned explanation.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

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Post by t-writescode »

I wonder if this is automated. Somebody wants to advertise _something_ to a demographic and Facebook doesn't have any sort of checks in place; or, they do have checks, but the ads lie about it and Facebook doesn't validate it.

I wonder how many requests for advertising to a given group they have. I imagine it's a scary high number.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

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Post by adjkant »

t-writescode wrote: post #12

I wonder if this is automated. Somebody wants to advertise _something_ to a demographic and Facebook doesn't have any sort of checks in place; or, they do have checks, but the ads lie about it and Facebook doesn't validate it. I wonder how many requests for advertising to a given group they have. I imagine it's a scary high number.

It's absolutely automated, but it begs the question, should it be allowed to be, particularly when dealing with minors? It seems crazy this case slipped through to exist when Facebook has been around for so long.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

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Post by indemnity »

xkeysc0re wrote: post #6
sodality2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you name some of those consequences in "western society" you believe were caused by "coddling helicopter gov't" actions, similar to regulating advertising addictive products to minors?

Yes. Society-wide we see an increased abdication of personal responsibility and general apathy. Increased mental illness. Severe feelings of loneliness and isolation brought about due to atomization by a government that's operated like a consultancy avoiding any liability or risk.

Except these are problems in most modern developed nations, whether they “coddle” their populace or not.

Perhaps our economic system and its focus on efficiency in a race to the bottom, externalities be damned, also bears a small responsibility.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

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Post by t-writescode »

adjkant wrote: post #14
t-writescode wrote: post #12

I wonder if this is automated. Somebody wants to advertise _something_ to a demographic and Facebook doesn't have any sort of checks in place; or, they do have checks, but the ads lie about it and Facebook doesn't validate it. I wonder how many requests for advertising to a given group they have. I imagine it's a scary high number.

It's absolutely automated, but it begs the question, should it be allowed to be, particularly when dealing with minors? It seems crazy this case slipped through to exist when Facebook has been around for so long.

The associated comments that are downvoted seem to imply that Facebook intended for this to happen and it wasn't just automation and bureaucracy.

Should it be stopped? If it violates the law, absolutely; but, we should recognize it for what it is, not some nefarious, evil plot to harm the young of multiple nations.

Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds

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Post by sodality2 »

t-writescode wrote: post #18
adjkant wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absolutely automated, but it begs the question, should it be allowed to be, particularly when dealing with minors? It seems crazy this case slipped through to exist when Facebook has been around for so long.

The associated comments that are downvoted seem to imply that Facebook intended for this to happen and it wasn't just automation and bureaucracy. Should it be stopped? If it violates the law, absolutely; but, we should recognize it for what it is, not some nefarious, evil plot to harm the young of multiple nations.

True, it's not malicious intent; if facebook could squeeze every cent out of their platform while advertising scented candles, they certainly would. It's the indifference that matters though.
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