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The rsync.net Warrant Canary is now 15 years old

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Re: The rsync.net Warrant Canary is now 15 years old

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I'm unfamiliar with US law, but I thought that with these secret warrants, there would be little distinction between positive action (like telling the press) and negative action (like not continuing a canary). As in, a judge would briefly think 'nice try' and send you to federal prison. Is this a concern for rsync.net? I assume they would have legal advice that supports your position, and know far more me.

Nobody knows the answer to this. "As in, a judge would briefly think 'nice try' and send you to federal prison. Is this a concern for rsync.net?" I'm not sure I parse your sentence correctly, but the only actor here is the US corporation named rsync.net. It is the entity that takes these actions (or lack thereof) and it would be the object of follow-up actions/proceedings/decisions - whatever they might be.

Thanks for the honest answer. I wasn't clear on who would be at risk because I just don't know how these things work. It's a bold position to take.

Re: The rsync.net Warrant Canary is now 15 years old

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I'm unfamiliar with US law, but I thought that with these secret warrants, there would be little distinction between positive action (like telling the press) and negative action (like not continuing a canary). As in, a judge would briefly think 'nice try' and send you to federal prison. Is this a concern for rsync.net? I assume they would have legal advice that supports your position, and know far more me.

Nobody knows the answer to this. "As in, a judge would briefly think 'nice try' and send you to federal prison. Is this a concern for rsync.net?" I'm not sure I parse your sentence correctly, but the only actor here is the US corporation named rsync.net. It is the entity that takes these actions (or lack thereof) and it would be the object of follow-up actions/proceedings/decisions - whatever they might be.

I could see a contempt of court “charge” against the company until they comply. But being a company, they can’t be jailed, so it’d just be a daily fine.

Re: The rsync.net Warrant Canary is now 15 years old

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This is interesting. Question: this is a one-time-use warning system? Once a single warrant has been executed, this signal loses information, especially over time. Can it be restarted, but with a new start date, so that external observers can piece together when warrants are executed?

Well, to be clear, there is nothing wrong with serving - or responding - to search warrants or requests for evidence, etc. We will, in fact, comply with any form of proper legal service. We do not want customers using our service to commit criminal acts. So if a "normal" warrant is issued, we will simply add that to the canary that is published every Monday. If it does not hinder the legal proceedings we may even ide…

Thank you for this explanation, it helped me to understand better how it works. It is a really nice initiative!

Another really happy customer.

Re: The rsync.net Warrant Canary is now 15 years old

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I've used rsync.net since some time before the warrant canary - I'm guessing around 20 years - and I only have nice things to say about the service. Even though I'm just a retail user, the couple of times I've needed support, it was prompt and helpful.

I've heard and read lots of stories of people losing all of their data in some accident or theft, and that's just something I don't have to worry about.

Can't think of any other service as reliable over such a long period of time, with the possible exception of running water.

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