Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by comeonseriously » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:09 PM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #6

c-cube wrote: post #2

How about they pay taxes, for a start?

If crazy tax schemes are legal, that's the politicians' fault for not fixing them, not Apple's (who has a duty to shareholders to, you know, not pay more taxes than they have to).

Not attacking you, but I'm so tired of this:

"...who has a duty to shareholders to, you know, not pay more taxes than they have to..."

Let's make shareholders rich. It'll all trickle down from there...

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by thiago_fm » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:09 PM UTC

You know the old Apple is dead when they are making statements which look more like a 90s IBM press release.

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by ldbooth » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:10 PM UTC

This is highly ranked on HN? Here is your sign... Hacker PR.

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by ErikVandeWater » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:11 PM UTC

55555 wrote: post #9

Can anyone break down what the $430B is going towards?

Lobbying.

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by CydeWeys » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:11 PM UTC

55555 wrote: post #9

Can anyone break down what the $430B is going towards?

Good question. It sounds like employee compensation is included in the figure so it really could just be "all projected US expenditures in the next 5 years".

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by TulliusCicero » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:12 PM UTC

c-cube wrote: post #2

How about they pay taxes, for a start?

Blaming Apple for governments letting them get away with paying low taxes is certainly a take.

Ultimately it's the responsibility of politicians and the voters who elect them to fix this.

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by tolbish » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:13 PM UTC

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I take it the funding going into all of these office spaces means remote working at Apple is more or less impossible in the future for the vast majority of employees?

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by gruez » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:13 PM UTC

Covzire wrote: post #5

It's surprising to me that $430B doesn't include plans for Apple's own fab(s).

Owning your own fabs is a great way to end up being stuck on a node, like intel.

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by ulimn » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:14 PM UTC

tapoxi wrote: post #4

"Oh shit, how do we dodge potential antitrust regulation?"

Whatever the reason, I think this is a good thing.

Re: Apple commits $430B in US investments over five years

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Post by hurril » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 2:14 PM UTC

comeonseriously wrote: post #11

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If crazy tax schemes are legal, that's the politicians' fault for not fixing them, not Apple's (who has a duty to shareholders to, you know, not pay more taxes than they have to).

Not attacking you, but I'm so tired of this: "...who has a duty to shareholders to, you know, not pay more taxes than they have to..." Let's make shareholders rich. It'll all trickle down from there...

Why aren't you a shareholder?

EDIT: sure - downvote me all you want. The question is still around.