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Re: Car Connectivity Consortium

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

AlotOfReading wrote: post #8
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such things already exist. Here’s an example: https://www.caruso-dataplace.com/ So today a consent of the vehicle owner is required and the owner needs to document the they “posses” the rights to the vin. This is how it works for bmw: you request data through that portal, the portal requests the access through the manufacturer. The manufacturer sends a consent request to the registered owner via email. If consent is…

How does the manufacturer have the owner's email after something like a private resale? Would they just send the consent request to the original purchaser?

Depends how you purchase the second hand vehicle. If the first owner did a trade in, it’s all easy to manage.

If it’s a direct sale, I guess it’s worth asking the first owner for the connectivity status. Even so, I believe a visit at a dealer with registration document would get that resolved pretty fast.

Re: Car Connectivity Consortium

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Post by sahaskatta »

Dah00n wrote: post #2

> "Car Data, will create an ecosystem to link the ever-expanding set of vehicle data to authorized data usage, such as pay-how-you-drive insurance, road monitoring, and fleet management." I hope for once to be surprised with privacy features..

I'm the co-founder of https://smartcar.com and we are in an adjacent space. We provide an API for cars to make it easy for developers to integrate with vehicles. Part of that process is to let consumers go through an Oauth flow and accept permissions before an app has access to a vehicle.

In my opinion, it's possible put privacy in the hands of consumers and enable developers to buidl apps for cars easily. I'm hoping this consortium adheres to these principles too.

Re: Car Connectivity Consortium

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

yummypaint wrote: post #7
rad_gruchalski wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such things already exist. Here’s an example: https://www.caruso-dataplace.com/ So today a consent of the vehicle owner is required and the owner needs to document the they “posses” the rights to the vin. This is how it works for bmw: you request data through that portal, the portal requests the access through the manufacturer. The manufacturer sends a consent request to the registered owner via email. If consent is…

Does the car not transmit any data prior to authorization?

That I do not know. All I know is: if there is no signature to consent to car data sharing, nobody ever will be able to request the consent. The car may be trying talking to manufacturer but what happens there, I do not know. This is all regulated by the ISO 27017 standard.

Re: Car Connectivity Consortium

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Post by throwawayboise »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #11
AlotOfReading wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does the manufacturer have the owner's email after something like a private resale? Would they just send the consent request to the original purchaser?

Depends how you purchase the second hand vehicle. If the first owner did a trade in, it’s all easy to manage. If it’s a direct sale, I guess it’s worth asking the first owner for the connectivity status. Even so, I believe a visit at a dealer with registration document would get that resolved pretty fast.

Pretty sure that in the US, the various states provide manufacturers with updates to vehicle title and registration changes. This is primarily so that vehicle owners can be notified of safety recalls.

Re: Car Connectivity Consortium

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Post by xyzzy21 »

Yeah, OK.

But this is why I drive a 20yo car and am serious considering replacing my current iPhone with a burner Dumb phone.

The value proposition just isn't being made nor delivering anymore!

Re: Car Connectivity Consortium

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Post by marshmallow_12 »

sahaskatta wrote: post #12
Dah00n wrote: post #2

> "Car Data, will create an ecosystem to link the ever-expanding set of vehicle data to authorized data usage, such as pay-how-you-drive insurance, road monitoring, and fleet management." I hope for once to be surprised with privacy features..

I'm the co-founder of https://smartcar.com and we are in an adjacent space. We provide an API for cars to make it easy for developers to integrate with vehicles. Part of that process is to let consumers go through an Oauth flow and accept permissions before an app has access to a vehicle. In my opinion, it's possible put privacy in the hands of consumers and enable developers to buidl apps for cars easily. I'm hoping…

will it merely be a generic initial 'i agree to terms and conditions' or a fully transparent, ongoing process of transferring data, with the user having ultimate control. If the latter is true, i salute you and wish you luck.

Re: Car Connectivity Consortium

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Post by tempaccount2342 »

Dah00n wrote: post #2

> "Car Data, will create an ecosystem to link the ever-expanding set of vehicle data to authorized data usage, such as pay-how-you-drive insurance, road monitoring, and fleet management." I hope for once to be surprised with privacy features..

well.. they buried it in there a bit, but they did include a way to get out of running google analytics on all websites in a given browser through an extension.

They link to it under their cookie policy: https://global-carconnectivity.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/0...

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