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Your friend helped 16 people get a vaccination rather than a different 16 people getting a vaccination. The same number of vaccinations were given out. Cool project though
Your friend helped 16 people get a vaccination rather than a different 16 people getting a vaccination. The same number of vaccinations were given out. Cool project though
I think there's different demands in play, I would skip lunch if it meant someone who really wanted to eat got it instead.
In reality I assume a low-risk young adult is more likely to use a telegram bot than a tech-illiterate grandma.
> It’s personally identifiable information (short: “PII”), but it’s not medical data. Huh, is that the case in Italy? In the US your name and date of birth are very much PHI
Yeah, Name and DOB are covered under HIPAA as PHI.
I'm not a lawyer but "codice fiscale" is not PHI. The Italian Data Protection Authority puts codice fiscale under PII[0] and it's not mentioned in the PHI section[1,2,3,4].
[0] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/home/diritti/cosa-intendiamo-p...
[1] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/temi/dati-sanitari
[2] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/faq/fascicolo-sanitario
[3] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/faq/referti-online
[4] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/web/guest/home/docweb/-/docweb...
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I think there's different demands in play, I would skip lunch if it meant someone who really wanted to eat got it instead.
I guess it depends if you think signing up to a telegram bot is a good signal for vaccine allocation. In reality I assume a low-risk young adult is more likely to use a telegram bot than a tech-illiterate grandma.
The vaccine situation in Veneto is complex. It's not "first come, first served". There are different cohorts. Right now the only people that are eligible are people over 80 and people with pre-existing health conditions.
Many of them have troubles using the official portal, and they ask their children to help them. Their children are around 50, and have to actively poll the website trying to get a spot.
I didn't build the bot for young, tech savvy people who want to get first in the line. It's exactly the opposite. By smoothing the UX it makes booking the spot for the vaccine accessible, and it removes the burden of constantly check it. It may also help in avoiding wasting doses by sending last minute notifications about new available spots.
I have few emails from people thanking me because they were frustrated by the official website, and the bot helped them to book a spot for their parents.
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> It’s personally identifiable information (short: “PII”), but it’s not medical data. Huh, is that the case in Italy? In the US your name and date of birth are very much PHI
Yeah, Name and DOB are covered under HIPAA as PHI.
Surely if you are only handling Names and DOB you don't have to be HIPAA compliant?
I mean, if you have to be HIPAA compliant (your application is medical-adjacent and/or is handling also other bits of data besides Name and DOB), then by correlating the DOB (or name) with the rest of the data, health information could be leaked, and thus you want to protect Name+DOB with the HIPAA standards (even just the fact that a certain name uses a certain app/is inside a certain system might be sensitive).
But otherwise... almost every system under the sun is ingesting name+DOB.
(there's a case to be made that the system described in the post is a medical app... but again: different jurisdiction)
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Yeah, Name and DOB are covered under HIPAA as PHI.
Alberto here, I made the bot. I'm not a lawyer but "codice fiscale" is not PHI. The Italian Data Protection Authority puts codice fiscale under PII[0] and it's not mentioned in the PHI section[1,2,3,4]. [0] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/home/diritti/cosa-intendiamo-p... [1] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/temi/dati-sanitari [2] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/faq/fascicolo-sanitario [3] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/faq/…
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Yeah, Name and DOB are covered under HIPAA as PHI.
I'm not aware of how things work in the US, but... Surely if you are only handling Names and DOB you don't have to be HIPAA compliant? I mean, if you have to be HIPAA compliant (your application is medical-adjacent and/or is handling also other bits of data besides Name and DOB), then by correlating the DOB (or name) with the rest of the data, health information could be leaked, and thus you want to protect Name+DOB…
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I guess it depends if you think signing up to a telegram bot is a good signal for vaccine allocation. In reality I assume a low-risk young adult is more likely to use a telegram bot than a tech-illiterate grandma.
Alberto here, I made the bot. The vaccine situation in Veneto is complex. It's not "first come, first served". There are different cohorts. Right now the only people that are eligible are people over 80 and people with pre-existing health conditions. Many of them have troubles using the official portal, and they ask their children to help them. Their children are around 50, and have to actively poll the website tryin…
Just thought the title made it sound like 16 extra people had been vaccinated!
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Alberto here, I made the bot. I'm not a lawyer but "codice fiscale" is not PHI. The Italian Data Protection Authority puts codice fiscale under PII[0] and it's not mentioned in the PHI section[1,2,3,4]. [0] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/home/diritti/cosa-intendiamo-p... [1] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/temi/dati-sanitari [2] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/faq/fascicolo-sanitario [3] https://www.garanteprivacy.it/faq/…
Nice. Really I was just curious, and not trying to throw a wrench in anything, thanks for taking the time to dig that up!
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Alberto here, I made the bot. The vaccine situation in Veneto is complex. It's not "first come, first served". There are different cohorts. Right now the only people that are eligible are people over 80 and people with pre-existing health conditions. Many of them have troubles using the official portal, and they ask their children to help them. Their children are around 50, and have to actively poll the website tryin…
I think it’s a cool and fun project so not dissing it! :) Just thought the title made it sound like 16 extra people had been vaccinated!